"Geoffrey Sinclair" wrote in message ...
Michael Petukhov wrote in message ...
"Geoffrey Sinclair" wrote in message ...
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Bad or not that bad. How about this?

Let us see now, instead of answering the problems with the
oil claim the subject is simply changed.

Well you could note I do not get salary to answer on all your
claims. You cite one book I cite a couple of others which seem show
very different pictures on the matter discussed. Any one
can decide which version is closer to sad reality, including you
and me. That's all as far as I understand.

Although I do appreciate your contribution and the numbers
you cited. So now I better understand what was US official
line of defence on its supplies to NAZI germany. A good
starting point to look a bit deeper. When and if I find
something extrodinary like yours "non existent Spanish oil
refinery" in Canaries I'll post it, don't worry.

Effectively none of
my text makes it to the non reply.

Maybe. Although unfortunately I do not have the book
to decide how objective, selfconsistent and complete is it.

All the best

Michael

No attempt to explain the appearance of a non existent
Spanish oil refinery, nor why the claimed imports of US
oil do not match the German records, nor Spanish
records, nor why the British would let hundreds of
Spanish tanker sailings full of oil simply sail past
Gibraltar for 4 years of war and so on.

Instead we have a shock horror story of how some people
in the US invested in Germany before and after Hitler came
to power and that some liked his ideas. Then add a whole
lot of accusations. The usual trawl of the internet to find
someone who agrees the earth is flat and that it means we
are really riding on the backs of 4 elephants who are in
turn supported by a great turtle cruising through space.

USSR trade with Germany, million marks, value of German imports
from USSR,

1933 194, 1934 210, 1935 215, 1936 93, 1937 65, 1938 53
1939 30 1940 391.

value of German exports to USSR

1933 282, 1934 63, 1935 39, 1936 126, 1937 117, 1938 34,
1939 31, 1940 216.

Germany's share of USSR foreign trade, percentages,
year / imports / exports

1933 42.5 /18.7
1934 12.4 / 23.5
1935 9.0 / 18.0
1936 22.8 / 8.6
1937 14.9 / 6.2
1938 4.7 / 6.6

Stalin was quite a happy trader with Nazi Germany, despite the
Nazi Government's ideology that called for the destruction of the
USSR, the Nazis did not call for the destruction of the USA.
People do trade.

(snip)

Among the U.S. corporations that invested in Germany during the 1920s
were Ford, General Motors, General Electric, Standard Oil, Texaco,
International Harvester, ITT, and IBM ? all of whom were more than
happy to see the German labor movement and working-class parties
smashed. For many of these companies, operations in Germany continued
during the war (even if it meant the use of concentration-camp slave
labor) with overt U.S. government support. "Pilots were given
instructions not to hit factories in Germany that were owned by U.S.
firms," writes Michael Parenti. "Thus Cologne was almost leveled by
Allied bombing but its Ford plant, providing military equipment for
the Nazi army, was untouched; indeed, German civilians began using the
plant as an air raid shelter."

The Ford plant was hit, using a truck plants as an example
ignores the allies largely ignored such factories in their
target selection, they went for aircraft factories, oil and
transport links and the German cities.

Remember the US government paid compensation to the
firms for bomb damage, no need if no damage.

Also blaming US management for what the management did
in Germany while the US was at war with Germany is an
impressive leap in bad logic.

(snip) rest.

Geoffrey Sinclair
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