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Old March 16th 09, 08:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Sam Spade
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Default How do I fly this approach?

Mxsmanic wrote:
Sam Spade writes:


You must think you are in Canada. MSAs are emergency altitudes only in
the U.S.



Even if I grant this (the FARs mention it but do not define it), how would I
then determine the minimum altitude when moving from the airway to the DME
arc? The airway MEA applies only on the airway, which I had left. The
sectional MEF for the quadrant in which I was operating was 1100 feet below
the MSA.

If I'm off-airway, and not within an area for which a MSA is published, how do
I determine my minimum instrument altitude? If the MEA on the airway had been
14,000 feet, how would I get from that altitude to the appropriate altitude to
capture the ILS glide slope in the distance available to me?


Airspace protected from obstacles.



By remaining at or above the MSA, I was protected from obstacles. This is true
whether an emergency existed or not.


Chief counsel's November, 1994 legal ruling on use of IAP's in non-radar
conditions. It is available on Summit's Aviation Reference Library:

The letter states in part:

"You also ask whether a Distance Measuring Equipment (DME) arc
initial approach segment can be substituted for a published IAF along
any portion of the published arc. A DME arc cannot be substituted for a
published IAF along a portion of the published arc."



I have the letter in front of me, but I do not see the relevance of it.
Explain how it applies here.

I also don't see any indication of feeder routes on the IAP plate. Can you
point these indications out to me?

I'll ask again: Describe exactly how I should have flown this, and explain
why, step by step.


If you don't see the relevance of the letter and you don't understand
MSAs, then just go play with yourself. You are up to the same bull****
game.