"Capt. Doug" wrote in message ...
Chip Jones wrote in message The response I get is "Baron 123 is IMC, no
contact."

While your scenario may be right on the money, let me point out that some
pilots will claim to be IMC even when there isn't a cloud in the sky. Their
reasoning is that by doing this, it keep the onus of seperation on the
controller.

Hi Doug,

There's also the vis. factor. If it's hazy and you're flying towards
the sun, you can't see a durn thing even if there isn't a cloud out
there. You're flying on instruments; isn't that properly described
as "IMC" with no funky legal reasoning behind it?

OTOH, a plane flying perp. or away from the sun can legitimately
see 3+ miles

IIRC the Baron was flying 110, early a.m., perhaps this is possible?

Cheers,
Sydney