Hey Bob, sorry about the impression I was correcting you on the P5 last week (I didn't mean it to sound as I was) but you're right on with this one...but do you (or any of the group) remember a civil airliner other than the stratocruiser with 4360s? ..and not the R4Q/C119 or the C74/124 or the Mars - they were all very, very military. Don't think there were any.