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Old April 4th 18, 08:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Chris Rowland[_2_]
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Default Round out and flare with fully open spoilers in a PW-6? Other gliders?

Would the British equivalent to the 1-26 be the Swallow?

I went solo on the Swallow, after training on a T21 (makes my blood run
cold now). It wasn't a problem, I was carefully briefed to approach and
land with half brake the first time but by the third was briefed to use
full brake.

The Swallow had a reputation to be twitchy on landing but from what I saw
this was only if you closed the brakes entirely. 1/4" of brake was enough
to stop this while not giving much drag. What I now realise was that a
tiny amount of brake killed the lift over the part of the wing where the
brakes were and this increased the stability.

Typically we tend to touch down on the main wheel and tail wheel together,
touching down tail first needs a slightly higher round out so there's room
for the tail to go down.

Chris


At 22:28 03 April 2018, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Tue, 03 Apr 2018 16:30:10 +0000, James Metcalfe wrote:

At 15:17 03 April 2018, wrote:
Just for the sport of it I'll point out that the 1-26 manual suggests
reducing spoilers just before touchdown. POH also notes

touchdown with
full spoilers is OK at 50 mph.
Wonder how they land 1-26s in England?


Are there any 1-26s in England ?


I've never flown a 1.26 (but its on my list) but some of the strongest
airbrakes I know are in the SZD Junior.

I've normally never needed or use more than half brake in a Junior, but
this time there was a strong wind, so I turned base to finals at 600-700
ft barely downwind of the threshold and stopped rolling less than 100m
into the field. That was a 65+ kt approach flown with full brakes. I saw
almost no float after rounding out: with that much brake a Junior turns
into a fairly decent brick. I knew it was a windy day: I got 2700 ft on
the winch - with the winch placed about 4000 ft from the launch point.


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