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Old November 22nd 09, 09:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Three take offs = three landings at Newton MS and Madison MS -Video

On Nov 22, 2:21*pm, "Flaps_50!" wrote:
On Nov 22, 4:24*am, " wrote:

In this video in 3 minutes you will have endured 3 takes offs and 3
landings.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCYjZ-XkPTk


Short field relative to pilot experiences I guess. *Figured to go to
Newton and work on a 3000 runway with large trees on the arrival end.
Only thing I can think that triggered the stall horn on short final
for the first approach was windshear which was easily fixed by
dropping the nose.


If you want to make a short field you need to get your touchdown point
much closer to the end of the runway and get that float under control.
You seem to be in a low power steady approach but you should be aiming
to lose speed on short final. This can be achieved by making use of
the back side of the power curve. Try to really land within the short
field specs of the plane i.e. to get her down and stopped by a certain
point on the runway.

Cheers


The wrong place to lose energy on a short field is in the flare. Get
it slow on short final. Also, although probably not in your manual,
once on the ground get the flaps up -- it puts more weight on the
landing gear and braking is more effective. When I want the wheels on
the runway quickly I bring up the flaps late in the flare (verify
three times you're touching flaps, not gear!). In the Mooney the
flaps are good for reducing stalling speed, they are not like the barn
doors that a 182 has that increase drag, so once they've served their
purpose -- getting me close to the ground with minimal velocity
squared energy -- it's ok to bring them up so as to get down out of
ground effect and be able to use the brakes.

If you want to really polish short field stuff, make a pass or two
over the runway in slow flight, within a foot or so of touchdown. . If
you do that and feel comfortable, cut the power. The airplane will
touch down right now, and you'll probably drag the tail skid a bit.

What I've suggested is not conventional, but it works for us.