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On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:03:09 +0000, TransWench wrote:

I was busily flonking away in talk.politics.guns,
alt.politics.usa.constitution.gun-rights,
rec.crafts.metalworking,
misc.survivalism, and alt.usenet.kooks, when The Goddess Eris
Herself
suddenly made me reply to ZeD:
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:44:09 -0700, Max Isn't Well wrote:
Aratzio says...
On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 15:03:51 -0500, in the land of
alt.usenet.kooks,
"RD (The Sandman)" got double secret probation for writing:
Aratzio wrote:
biggus snippus
I don't think there is a right to own an assault weapon.

I don't think you know what an assault weapon is. It is a
media term
used to describe *semi* auto military look alikes. They
fire
a
medium powered round one shot at a time just like a
revolver.
Now,
if you wish to use the term "assault rifle" that is an
actual
term
that describes *full* auto capable weaponry like what is
actually
used by the military. Full auto weaponry has been
controlled
by
federal law since 1934. Ownership of full auto is banned
in
some
states. The media also uses this term incorrectly in
describing what
are assault "weapons".

Specific
types of military grade weapons should be tightly
controlled.

They are.....like since 1934.

And demonstrates that controlling specific types of weapons
is
legal.

'Legal' but unconstitutional. The second amendment does NOT
specify
semi-automatic arms or even small arms.

The purpose of the second amendment being to provide the
citizenry with
protection from the government, I an entitled to any weapon
they
have.

That's a fact. The anti gun nuts must think they have nothing
to
fear
from their government.

I'm still waiting for you gun nuts to actually *do something*
about the
foaming-at-the-mouth government you now have...At the rate
you're
"mobilising", I figure you should be ready to move a week or
two
after
Way Too ****ing Late.

Yep, it'll happen the First of Never. The gubamint dosent care
if
merikins
have guns since they know that the military could crush any
"revolution"
that might happen. its a false sense of freedums that merikins
share. Like
the idea that their vote actually counts

The last American whose vote actually counted was Lee Harvey
Oswald

blink
I dont think a slug counts as a "vote".


in a lot of the world it certainly does!


Bertie

You've been spending too much time in Myanmar...



Well, i have spent a lot of time in the third world, and election
time in a lot of it means a coup, but the so-called first world is
often about three weeks from martial law. I'm still astonished as to
how few repercussions did arise form 9-11, in fact.

Your ideas interest me. Elaborate.


Well, pick a well disciplined democracy of your choice. Not necessarily
what some might call a sheeple state, but one that's orderly and with
some reasonable amount of respect for the authorities. In times of
crisis, in times of fear, people look to those authorities for
direction. Theyh're accustomed to doing what they're told, so they'll di
it,whatever it takes. Obvious. Anyhow, you get an incident and you get
someone to demonise the characters you wish to direct your populace
against and zipedee do dah, you have a war, or invasion or whatever
other kind of lunacy you wish your populace to embark upon.
Really, all that needs to be done is for some asshole, for whatever
reason, to say "those ****ers over there are the cause of all your
problems. just look at 'em with their funny food and weird music trying
to mess us up, we gotta stop 'em"
One study I read estimated it would take about three weeks to go from a
quiet peaceful society to this stage. The more disciplined and coherent
a society, the mor likely this was to be accomplished, a notion which
has been borne out by history..

Having read 1984 again a few months back it seems to be the case for most
of us "civilized" folks.

You might have heard of some of these experiments. The first is
particularly scary.

http://www.prisonexp.org/

We studies that in psych class...

http://www.age-of-the-
sage.org/psychology/milgram_obedience_experiment.html


There's footage of both of these experiments around the net, I beleive.

http://www.new-life.net/milgram.htm
Even the Simpson references this when they go to counceling and
the family members are each given a button to push.


Some other nations that look
entirely stable are less so than one might imagine, IMO. I'm not gonna
worry, though!

Bertie

It wont get you cheeper gas, thats for sure.


Or make me any younger..

Bertie

Yew kids git offa my lawn...

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