Petzl wrote in
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On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 12:58:00 -0500, RD Sandman
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Petzl wrote in
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On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 11:30:47 -0500, RD Sandman
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Sylvia Else wrote in news:el5f1bFb5krU1
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To my mind, the proper solution to the overbooking problem is
either to ban it outright (given that it's deliberate, not just a
mistake),

Overbooking is intentional. It is done to try and ensure paying
passengers for all flights.

The plane was full, not over booked.

Not enough is known for me to argue with you. The point is that the
plane was full, airlines can and do overbook to ensure that all seats
are filled.

Everyone was seated, so at the point the plane was full not overbooked
(UA spin).

Perhaps. We don't know if there aother passengers in the terminal that
were not added to the flight. Additionally, when the four airline
employees were added to the manifest, the flight beame "overbooked".

More spin is that four passengers were "randomly" selected?

Yes, it is a computer program that does the selection. Computers do not
make selections for any other reason than what is programmed into them,
and it is very difficult to make that purely random.

Airport Security were called when one Asian refused to voluntarily
comply.

Why should that be any different than if it had been a white female?

The Asian media noted all were Chinese Asian, are reacting against to
what is seen by them as being profiled by UA and removed because of
being Asian.

I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere, however, I do not subscribe to
any Asian newspapers.

UA are concerned because they have had over 30 years of operating
profitably in China.

They need to be concerned for more reasons than that.

Four un-booked "staff" turned up last minute requiring seats

Yes, they had to be at the arrival airport for duties. I would assume
those duties included working on another flight from that airport.

I have to correct my assumption here. They were not scheduled to work
another flight, they were headed to a meeting the next morning.

or to
require that the airline just keep offering more and more money
until they do get the needed volunteers. If that means they have
to offer
tens
of thousands of dollars, then so be it - that's the price of
overbooking.

The maximum is $1350 and it is usually in the form of a voucher
which can be used on other flights on that same airline. It used to
be the cost of the ticket for a later flight and a dinner at the
airport. It could also include an overnight stay at a local hotel
if the later flight was tomorrow.

I would expect an airline has the right to remove anyone it wants
to? However United Air abused this privilege

No argument on that point.

One would expect that removal be done safely?

Of course.

It was not a frail old Asian man getting his head beaten in by
"Airport Security" and he ruturned for more,

"Somehow he got back on," Tyler Bridges, one of those who filmed the
incident, told NBC News. "He runs back on — dazed, bloodied, kind of
in a mess — yelling, 'I have to get home, I have to get home.'"

Now if one of this Doctors patients took a turn for the worse?
This sounds like a ambulance chasers dream (no win no fee)



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