And as for the 9mm, always thought that is just way too light a load for anything. Need at least 40 or bigger. Its like comparing glide ratios, isn’t there always an advantage having a 40/1 ventus vs a 22/1 1-26? LOL.. Yes, some of us enjoy the challenge of working great things with the low performance birds, but the “bigger caliber” ones make for less stressful flying when over tiger or bear country, be it terrain or animal lol.