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Old January 5th 06, 03:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Default Newbie holding questions

An EFC should always be part of a hold clearance, if they
forget, ask.


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James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
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| "JohnK" wrote in message
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| I am getting ready to start IFR training next week, and
there are a
| couple of questions regarding holding that I have been
pondering.
| (Searched through here already, but couldn't find the
answers...at
| least spelled out for me
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| When being assigned a hold, will ATC usually assign an
altitude as
| well?
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| No, an altitude is not specifically part of a holding
instruction. There'd
| be no need to issue an altitude if you're to hold at the
currently assigned
| altitude.
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| None of the samples I've seen in the FAA text or the AIM
mention
| an altitude in a clearance, and it made me wonder what
happens when a
| large volume of aircraft are holding at a busy airport
waiting to land.
| Do they "stack 'em and rack 'em" (like it looked the two
times I've
| flown into LHR), or do they have them hold all over the
place (which I
| observed on the BOS Airport Monitor a few weeks ago when
that snowstorm
| rolled through.)
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| They may do both and also employ other floe control
measures.
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| Secondly, what happens there is a holding pattern used
to enter an
| approach to landing, and there are multiple aircraft
landing? For
| example, if there were several planes flying into
Charlottesville (CHO)
| from the east (GVE VOR, 17 nm), wouldn't everyone be
entering the
| holding pattern at 3300', thus creating a collision
hazard? Or would
| ATC only clear one aircraft at a time for the approach?
Which doesn't
| seem to do much for volume, but normally isn't an issue
at a place like
| CHO unless there is a football game....
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| At CHO they will be radar sequenced for the approach,
football game or not.
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