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Old November 20th 07, 01:24 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
Peter Skelton
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Default Russian Carrier Plans Part One

On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 01:24:01 -0500, "Ray O'Hara"
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"Mr.Smartypants" wrote in message
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On Nov 17, 8:27 pm, "Ray O'Hara" wrote:
"Mr.Smartypants" wrote in message


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On Nov 17, 7:09 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
"Mr.Smartypants" wrote:

:On Nov 16, 9:50 pm, wrote:
: See:
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:http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Russ...t_One_999.html





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: Nice plans, but can they be carried out?
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:Why not?
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:Russia has billions and billions of EUROS worth of oil and gas.
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If mere money would do it, Saudi Arabia would have a huge carrier
aviation organization.

They don't.

The United States, with a stronger economy and much more experience

in
carrier aviation didn't build at anything near the rate the Russians
claim they want to.

What reason is there to believe they can do it?

I guess you didn't notice what they did in WW II.

Thousands of tanks.

Hundreds of thousands of sub-machine guns.

Ammo.

and all while under attack.

ships require a bit more infrustructure than tanks or submachine guns.
any locomotive ot truck factory can make a tank and they can be located
anywhere
a shipyard has to be in a spot with deep water access.- Hide quoted

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Now you're trying to tell us that Russia has NO shipyards and no deep
water ports.


sure they have some, but not many.
leningrad/st pete is one. the black sea ports are now in the ukraine. the
ukrainians aren't about to let the ruskis back in after just having gotten
rid of them.
siberia/kamchatka would need some serious bulding programs to become useful
as a home for any modern fleets.

The lease on the base in the Ukraine lasts until 2017 after which
it is planned to move it to Novorossiysk, which is Russian and on
the Black Sea.

Some study of the politics and geography of the area seems
indicated.


Peter Skelton