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Old June 4th 04, 08:26 PM
Kevin Brooks
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Subject: Airmen get training in fighting on the ground, By Jessica

Inigo,
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From: "Joe Osman"
Date: 6/4/04 10:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time
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"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message
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On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 22:04:39 GMT, Otis Willie
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Airmen get training in fighting on the ground, By Jessica Inigo, Stars
and Stripes

(EXCERPT) European edition, Thursday, June 3, 2004

CAMP VIRGINIA, Kuwait - All it takes is some Army weapons, several
classes and a group of National Guard soldiers from El Paso, Texas, to
teach airmen how to be "hooah!"

Nearly 300 airmen from the 732nd Expeditionary Civil Engineer Squadron
are learning major soldiering skills during a two-phase course,
designed to get the Army and the Air Force on the same fighting page.

The airmen are separated into four groups of abou...

Poor Jessica need to read some history.

Can she spell "Red Horse" and "Prime BEEF"?


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
Smithsonian Institution Press
ISBN #1-58834-103-8


Ed:

Were USAF Red Horse and Prime BEEF units ever trained in combat

skills
before? Did they see any action that you know about? The Seabees have

been
trained for quite a while by the USMC.
In WWII during Operation Torch, a USAAF Aviation Engineer unit acting

as
infantry took part on the attack on the "Casbah", an old Portugese fort

in
Port Lyautey (now Kenitra) Morocco and helped defeat the 3rd Infantry
Regiment of the French Foreign Legion. Earlier at Bataan, a Pursuit

Squadron
(the 10th, IIRC) fighting as infantry took part in an amphibious
counterlanding to defeat the Japanese landings in the Battle of the

Points.
About a fourth of the infantry on Bataan and Corregidor were USAAF.

Joe



In WW II we all went through combat infantry training


No, you went through *basic* training, which does not equal "combat infantry
training", whatever the heck that is.

before we were sent to
flight schools. And we were always reminded that we were soldiers first

and
fliers second. and many of us picked up rlfles and took our place in lines

of
skermishers during the battle of the Bulge. And that included cooks,

bakers and
mechanics.


Must have been a pretty poor bombadier if it was decided to send you to the
front as an infantry pogue. Could you point to which exact sector B-26
aircrew served in the infantry role in during the Ardennes campaign?

Brooks



Arthur Kramer