"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

No, the Founders were far from being of one mind.

So far, so good.

The Federalists
(librtarians) had ultimate control in creating the Republic,

Excuse me, you are linking the Federalists (Hamilton, Madison and Jay
at the core) with the Libertarians who oppose a strong central
government? The Federalists were the ones seeking central focus.
Libertarians are the opposite.

No, the Federalists are the same as Libertarians. It is the
anti-Federalists that opposed a strong central government. The Federalist
papers are mostly an anti-federalist product.

with those of
democratic persuasion placing the 3/5 law into the Constitution
(democracy
ultimately leads to the opression of the minority)

The 3/5ths compromise was a black day in America's history, but to
attribute it to a desire to oppress a minority is wrong. It may be
viewed that way in 20th Century, post-civil-rights thinking, but it
was simply a mechanism to deal with the large states/small states
proportional representation question. A "deal with the devil" if you
will, but don't ascribe malicous motives to the action.

I find putting Slavery in the Constitution to be malicious.

and those of the
republicn (anti-federalists)

No "republicn" until after Lincoln. You might want to label them
"Whigs".

No, Jefferson often refered to the anti-Federalists as Republicans and they
were part of Jefferson's original Democratic Republican Party.

way of thinking wanting the Bill of Rights.

The "Bill of Rights" (not an original American creation, by the way)
was added only after the 1787 convention had once tried to get the
document ratified. It wasn't a particularly anti-federalist action,
but simply an acknowledgement that while the Constitution spelled out
what the government "can" do, the people demanded guarantees of what
the government "can't" do.

No, the ratification of the Constitution was to be by force of arms, once 7
States had ratified. When 6 States had ratified the Contitution, the State
of Connecticut offered, "this Bill of Rights, or War". The Bill of Rights
was added to the Constitution by threat of violence.

Later, Jefferson created the Democratic Republican Party and defeated the
Federalists to this day.

Duh? You're saying that there is some sort of hybrid "Democratic
Republican" Party?

No, I am only refering to the Democratic Republican Party by its original
name. Those of democratic thinking and those of republican thinking had to
band together to defeat the Federalists.

Jefferson's party has a very clear lineage to the
modern Democratic Party (although poor Tom would be aghast at what it
has become.)

Sure, the name was shortened, later.

And, the certainly haven't defeated the Federalists--au
contraire, they have become what they opposed.

You could use some remedial history courses, Ed.

As with many, Ed confuses anti-Federalists with Federalists.

John P. Tarver, MS/PE
Electrical Engineer