-----Original Message-----
From: Sam Spade ]
Posted At: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:15 PM
Posted To: rec.aviation.ifr
Conversation: Requesting a hold from ATC for descents
Subject: Requesting a hold from ATC for descents

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Your mileage may vary. ;-)

I've got almost 8,000 hours in the 727 and never, ever did an approach
hold or procedure turn. Delay vectors, yes.

And then there was the time several years ago an American 727 into TUL
was hot, high, and straight-in -- but he wasn't going to sequence behind
my lowly Cherokee 6. He ended up going around after blowing across the
boundary well above Vref and ended up landing #2 behind the Bonanza that
followed me in. I wonder what that little excursion cost?

Of course I still love to hear the tower tell a pilot "left or right
turn at the end if able".