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Old December 16th 19, 04:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default Tesla Model 3 and a glider

Yeah!Â* And have an extension cord between the trailer and the car and
keep the generator running in the trailer so that you don't have to stop
until you need to pee, which you could mitigate by drilling a hole in
the floor to run your relief system outside.Â* Oh, and bring a bunch of
water along to clean up the glider of generator exhaust, or to put out
the fire in the trailer. :-D

Winter is less than a week away...


On 12/16/2019 2:26 AM, Alan Garside wrote:
You can always put a generator in the trailer to keep the car charged up,
but make sure its a three phase generator.

At 02:43 16 December 2019, 2G wrote:
On Sunday, December 15, 2019 at 5:01:56 PM UTC-8, Eric Greenwell wrote:
2G wrote on 12/15/2019 1:35 PM:
On Sunday, December 15, 2019 at 12:24:50 PM UTC-8, Mike N. wrote:
This is the critical point. Energy density, it is really the

limiting
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factor of electric versus fossil fueled vehicles.
I'm really looking forward to new battery technology that can bring

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ectric storage to be even relatively close to that of fossil fuels. Not

to
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mention the battery deterioration, disposal, and replacement aspects.
I like leading edge technologies. I think Tesla has done great

things
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to push the technology forward.
However I personally cannot afford the cost of being an early

adopter
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of electric vehicles. Despite the the technogy advancement in e-vehicles
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de in the last 10 years, we are still in the infancy of this new breed of
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ransportation. F
I am really waiting for a larger hybrid mini SUV platform to come to

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aturity.
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Maybe you didn't get the memo, but auto manufacturers have tried and

ab=
andoned hybrid vehicles - they add a lot of cost for a small incremental
be=
nefit. The Tesla 100D already weighs in at a whooping 5400 lbs, about
twice=
what an ICE sedan weighs. Adding an engine and transmission to that

would
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bring it up to around 7000 lbs, more than my Super Duty F250 weighs.
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You would not add an engine and transmission to 5400 lb Tesla. You'd

add
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a small=20
engine/generator sufficient to keep the batteries charged at highway

spee=
d, and=20
reduce the battery to, say, 100 mile capacity instead of 300 miles.

It's
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then a=20
plug-in hybrid, and it's characteristics are significantly different

from=
a=20
typical hybrid. It'd be cheaper than the 100D, because batteries are

stil=
l=20
relatively expensive. The Prius Prime is a good example, with 50 mpg on

g=
as, 28=20
mile electric range, and 500 mile total range (10 gallon tank!). For

most=
owners,=20
most of the driving would be electric, and "gas milage" can easily

exceed=
150 mpg.
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But, we seem to have drifted rather far from the ability of a Tesla to

to=
w a=20
glider trailer. Let's get back to that.
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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to

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me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"

https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...s/download-th=
e-guide-1

You can already buy that car - it's called a Chevy Volt. That
configuration=
doesn't seem to capture the imagination of the tree-hugging EV customer,
h=
owever.

There's no question that the Tesla can tow a glider, but at an incredibly
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low overall speed (under 30 mph). And forget about going to Ely - well,
you=
could throw in a motor-generator and a lot of gas.

Tom


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Dan, 5J