On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 06:46:16 -0800, "Ron Webb"
wrote:


" Every single person who has gone into business with him, or invested
money into any venture he has been associated with, has lost every
penny and then some...

These guys
http://www.tvap.com/have been around for several years now selling BD-4
kits, and they seem to be doing fine. Does anybody know anything more about
them?

Never trust any one whos web site requires flash player.