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Dennis Fetters
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Poultry in Motion wrote:
Ask him who else he threatened in rotaryforum.com He was warned about
threatening people there a few times by the mods.



Dennis, who else???

Fetters once threatened (and sued) a Mini-500 customer, Joe Rinke,
because Rinke began solving the Mini's problems. Rinke's activities
would have upset the RHCI business model, which relied on keeping
customers tightly controlled and dependent on Fetters alone for all
support. They were permitted to have helicopters only as good as Fetters
was willing, or able, to make them. No outside development, no outside
parts allowed. Fetters told them what to buy, and told them when it
would be mandatory.


Well, here is the real reasons I sued that little man for lying and
breach of contract. Besides, where is Joe Rinke today? Where is the
little savior? He went bust all the way around without a single working
prototype finished. What a bigmouth looser he turned out to be. I posted
this years ago;

Revolution Helicopter Report: Joe Rinke’s False Statements.
Greetings Newsgroup participants,
Joe Rinke has made several false statements concerning Revolution Helicopter
corp. to this Newsgroup, and in the information presently on his webpage for
Rinke Aerospace.

I feel it necessary to post the facts and prove his statements are false with
the evidence presented here in this report I compiled. What these people are
saying is being done to benefit themselves and they’re own cause through
slandering RHCI, and telling you, the public, lies.

I’m not here to badmouth or discredit anyone. I will simply let the evidence
speak for it’s self. I will not lower myself to the level that my detractors
have gone. I have no need to use profanity and name calling to defend myself.
I am a professional, and feel that I have always portrayed myself as one to
this news group. Any of the evidence I present can be checked and verified
with little effort. All of the quotes in this post are copied out of the
newsgroups, or I had permission to post.

Some of the Mini-500 detractors are trying to make Joe Rinke look like the
saver of the Mini-500, and this is far from the truth.

Joe Rinke wrote:

And if it's quality you're worried about, PLEASE DON'T BE!!! Our
manufacturing capabilities are housed in a 21,225 sq. ft. facility with
state-of-the-art machinery that currently manufacturers aircraft parts for,
among others, Allison Engine, General Dynamics, General Electric, Numatics,
Pratt & Whitney Aircraft, Rockwell International, Teledyne Ryan Aeronautical,
Textron-Lycoming, United Technologies, Williams International, as well as a
host of automotive companies and others.


In reality, there is no such thing as a Rinke Aerospace as he is portraying
it to be. Joe Rinke makes a living with an excavating business. Tinkering
with his Mini-500 is a part time hobby. The facilities he mentions is a place
where he has some machine work done. He doesn’t own these places as he leads
you to believe. He does a little business with them, but to say “our” is not
correct.

Further more, when you take a look at his Webpage, he tries to lead us all to
believe that the building shown in the picture is Rinke Aerospace. I attached
the picture at the bottom of this report, and you can clearly see that the
sign “Rinke Aerospace” is pasted onto the picture by computer.
Two other people that are guilty of deceiving this Newsgroup are Chuck Van
Thomme and Ed Randolph. They posted statements to these newsgroups that were
designed to mislead us all, for the benefit of Joe Rinke and to fool you into
feeling at ease to send him money, as if he was an established business in the
aerospace field.

Ed Randolph wrote:

I made a trip to Joe's shop = looks impressive but awfully noisy( hard on this
old mans ears as I didn't on headset or earmuffs).
Chuck Van Thomme wrote:

I was at their shop and they had 3 machines in already for conversions. Their
tool shop is unbelievable, estimated 10.5 million dollars worth of tool and
machines.It put Revolutions shop to shame.”
Chuck Van Thomme wrote:

HI RALPH I'm glad you took the time to go too Rinke's shop. NOW you know
what I'm talking about. When you see other gear boxes setting around that THAT
shop builds for the military YOU know its FIRST CLASS..”
Chuck Van Thomme wrote:

Ralph, If DF should ever go out of business,Rinke Aerospace can manufacture
ANY part of that helicopter and do a very high quality job at it. I believe
you were one of the guys that visited his shop, did'nt you?? I may be
wrong,but I thought you did. In the past there have been dozens of people that
have flown out to see his shop,and without a doubt ,I think everyone was
impressed.


In a post made by Ralph Raser, he told the truth about Joe Rinke’s aerospace
company. He went there and saw it, and said the word “ available”, which makes
all the difference in the world.

Ralph Raser wrote:

That's correct. Joe has a nice shop available to him.


It has been said that Joe Rinke is a liar by others in this Newsgroup. I can’t
disagree after having to deal with him, and when reading some of the ludicrous
claims he makes.

Joe Rinke wrote:

And regarding the amendment, obviously I know about this since, I was in court
that day with Dennis, when the Judge demanded that modifications be allowed to
the Mini since it is proven "unairworthy" in its original state! There is now
a precedent set in the Courts, requiring that since I am allowed to modify my
aircraft and fly it, in its modified state, that others be allowed to do so
too. Case law having been set, DF had no choice but to allow others to modify
their Minis. It's humorous, though, that after all this time and effort, DF
comes out and tries to look like it was his idea and that he's a "nice guy" by
allowing individuals to modify their Minis...funny!”


That entire statement was a lie. Joe Rinke takes credit for having forced
RHCI into giving our builders an amendment to allow them to modify they’re
Mini-500s. I sent this email to Mr. Dave Martin, editor of KitPlanes
magazine, and asked him to tell the world where I got the idea for the
contract modification. I made this amendment available so as to defuse Joe
Rinke’s attempts to scare people into a class action lawsuit. Now, proof of
the first part of his lie:

Dave Martin wrote:

26 Oct 1998
Dennis:
You have asked me to confirm that after the Dallas meeting on the Mini-500, I
suggested that you provide your customers relief from the threat of lawsuits
if they made modifications to their Revolution helicopter kits. The Dallas
meeting made clear that people were delighted with their Mini-500s except for
the technical problems they had experienced--and the restriction in their
sales contracts that precluded changes including those related to safety. I
noted that you and I had known each other a long time, that I don't normally
give business advice, but that I thought your company was at risk unless you
improved relations with your customers in this area.
Soon after our phone conversation, you confirmed that you were adopting the
idea and would be contacting your customers relating to changes to their
Mini-500s.
The idea was mine, and I was pleased with your positive response to it. You
have my permission to make this known.
Dave Martin, editor, KITPLANES


Next part of his lie: Joe Rinke stated that “the Judge demanded that
modifications be allowed to the Mini since it is proven "unairworthy" in its
original state.” As a matter of fact, this is the only thing the Judge said:
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE
WESTERN DISTRICT OF MISSOURI
WESTERN DIVISION
REVOLUTION HELICOPTER CORP. )
INC., )
)
Plaintiff )
)
v. ) No. 98-0060-CV-W-9
)
JOSEPH P. RINKE, et al., )
)
Defendants. )
ORDER GRANTING PLAINTIFF’S MOTION
FOR TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER
On January 16, 1998, and February 27, 1998, hearings were held before this
court on the plaintiff’s request for a temporary restraining order against
defendant.
For the reasons stated at the February 27, 1998, hearing, and pursuant to
Dataphase Systems, Inc. v. C.L. Systems, Inc., 640 F.2d 109 (8th Cir. 1981),
the balance of equities so favors the plaintiff that justice requires the
court to intervene to preserve the status quo until plaintiff’s request for
preliminary and permanent relief can be decided.
Accordingly, it is ORDERED that:
1) defendants Joseph Rinke and Rinke Aerospace Corporation are restrained
until further order of this court from modifying any Mini-500 aircraft owned
by them or anyone else;
2) defendants Joseph Rinke and Rinke Aerospace Corporation are restrained
until further order of this court from flying or otherwise operating any
modified Mini-500 aircraft owned by them or anyone else;
3) defendants are restrained until further order of this court from soliciting
business from Mini-500 aircraft owners for the purpose of selling kits for the
modification of any Mini-500 aircraft;
4) defendants are restrained until further order of this court from exhibiting
or displaying any modified Mini-500 aircraft;
5) defendants are restrained until further order of this court from
advertising any modification to a Mini-500 aircraft or attempting to induce
any owner of a Mini-500 aircraft to modify the aircraft;
6) plaintiff shall post with the Clerk of the Court a cash bond or a bond
with a surety approved by this court in the amount of $50,000 conditioned as
required by Rule 65, Federal Rules of Civil Procedure; and
7) on or before March 6, 1998, the parties shall file a Proposed Scheduling
Order suggesting a deadline for the close of pretrial discovery, the filing
of dispositive motions, a proposed time for a hearing on preliminary and
permanent injunctive relief and an estimate of the court time needed for this
hearing.
Signature, D. Brook Bartlett
United States District Judge
Kansas City, Missouri
March 3, 1998.

Let’s read that again;
“the balance of equities so favors the plaintiff that justice
requires the court to intervene to preserve the status quo
until plaintiff’s request for preliminary and permanent relief
can be decided.”

As a matter of fact, this case never went to court. It was turned over to a
“Mediator” to try and bring both parties to an agreement so that it wouldn’t
need to go to court. The Mediator has no power to make any decisions or
judgments of any kind. What Joe Rinke said about the judge ordering RHCI to
make contract amendments, or Case law being set was a whopping lie. The
entire event that Joe Rinke described above never happened........... funny,
all right.
RHCI made Joe Rinke sign an agreement to satisfy our relief. We did so in a
way that would still allow him to fly his mini-500, but not to market his
unproved and untested components that he was trying to sell to unwary
Mini-500 owners, that thought he really had an Aerospace business.
These people have said that I’m “sue-happy”. In reality, I am not at all. You
have seen these detractors slam RHCI, the Mini-500 and myself on many
occasions, even to the point of telling obvious lies and the year long
fueling of a Mini- 500 hate campaign. Yet, with all of this, I have not sued
any of them for these attacks. They admit they enjoy what they do, and seek
the largest audience possible in their attempts to damage us. They will
praise anyone that supports their cause, and condemn anyone sympathetic to
the point that drives them away. They even support Flygyros!! ;

Charles Greene wrote:

I doubt that those of us who go on & on about the Mini 500 want to go through
this. Besides, we want to have a large audience, influence public opinion,
boost our egos.
Ed Randoff wrote:

Esteban, Keep right on posting to this news group. This is America = Freedom
of speech for all . They know where the on /off switch is on their computer.
Ed #005”



We have proven with this evidence that Joe Rinke has lied and deceived this
Newsgroup on a number of occasions, and is presently misrepresenting his
business status and abilities. Both Joe Rinke and Fred Stewart said that I
stole ideas and designs from Rinke Aerospace. I will soon give evidence in a
new report that these statements are also false.
I hope that this report will give people the insight of what has really been
happening here. Thank you for your attention, and please remember to come to
the official Mini-500 builders meeting here at Revolution Helicopter Corp.,
February 6 and 7, 1999
Most sincerely,
Dennis Fetters
President
Revolution Helicopter Corp.