On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 03:09:23 GMT, A Guy Called Tyketto
wrote:


This, you'll find interesting, if you fly anywhere in SOCAL...

http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?...id=95978&page=

That is very interesting in light of these NOTAMs:

http://www2.faa.gov/NTAP/NTAP03OCT30/C's.htm#California
FDC 3/8822 BUR FI/P BURBANK-GLENDALE-PASADENA, BURBANK, CA. NDB
RWY 8, AMDT 2B...TRML RTE: FILMORE (FIM) VORTAC TO TOAKS INT MNM
ALT 4400. TRML RTE: TOAKS TO SILEX MNM ALT 3700. MINIMUM ALTITUDE
AT SILEX 3700. THIS IS NDB RWY 8, AMDT 2C.

FDC 3/8821 BUR FI/P BURBANK-GLENDALE-PASADENA, BURBANK, CA. LOC RWY
8, AMDT 2B...TRML RTE: FILMORE (FIM) VORTAC TO TOAKS INT (NO PT)
MNM ALT 4400. TRML RTE: VENTURA (VTU) VOR/DME TO TOAKS (NO PT) MNM
ALT 4400. TRML RTE: TOAKS TO SILEX (NO PT) MNM ALT 3700. TRML RTE:
HOLD W SILEX, RT, 075.94 INBD, 3700 FEET IN LIEU OF PTN (IAF). MNM
ALT AT SILEX 3700. THIS IS LOC RWY 8, AMDT 2C.

FDC 3/8820 BUR FI/P BURBANK-GLENDALE-PASADENA, BURBANK, CA. RNAV
(GPS) RWY 8, ORIG...TRML RTE: FILMORE (FIM) VORTAC (IAF) TO TOAKS
WP (NO PT) MNM ALT 4400. TRML RTE: VENTURA (VTU) VOR/DME (IAF) TO
TOAKS WP (NO PT) MNM ALT 4400. CHART: ARM APCH MODE PRIOR TO IAF.
TRML RTE: TOAKS WP TO SILEX (NO PT) MNM ALT 4100. TRML RTE: HOLD W,
SILEX WP, RT, 075.80 INBD, 4100 FEET IN LIEU OF PTN (IAF). MNM ALT
AT SILEX 4100. MISSED APCH: CLIMBING RT TO 4100 DCT SILEX WP AND
HOLD. THIS IS RNAV (GPS) RWY 8, ORIG-A.

FDC 3/8819 BUR FI/P BURBANK-GLENDALE-PASADENA, BURBANK, CA. ILS RWY
8, AMDT 35B...TRML RTE: FILMORE (FIM) VORTAC TO TOAKS INT (NO PT)
MNM ALT 4400. TRMNL RTE: VENTURA (VTU) VOR/DME TO TOAKS (NO PT) MNM
ALT 4400. TRMNL RTE: TOAKS TO SILEX (NO PT) MNM ALT 3700. TRML RTE:
HOLD W SILEX, RT, 075.94 INBD, 3700 FEET IN LIEU OF PTN (IAF). MNM
ALT AT SILEX 3700. THIS IS ILS RWY 8, AMDT 35C.

FDC 3/8817 BUR FI/P BURBANK-GLENDALE-PASADENA, BURBANK, CA. VOR RWY
8, AMDT 10C...TRML RTE FILMORE (FIM) VORTAC (IAF) TO SUANA INT VNY
11.40 DME (NO PT) MNM ALT 4400. TRML RTE VENTURA (VTU) VOR/DME
(IAF) TO SUANA (NO PT) MNM ALT 4400. TRML RTE GINNA (IAF) TO SUANA
(NO PT) MNM ALT 4400. TRML RTE: HOLD W CANOG, RT, 074.99 INBD, 3700
FEET IN LIEU OF PTN (IAF). MNM ALT AT CANOG 3700. THIS IS VOR RWY
8, AMDT 10D.

Unfortunately I don't see any NOTAM indicating that FIM is OTS on the
Hawthorne Flight Service Station web site.


I'll bet there are more radio aids to navigation made inoperative by
the fires. What about Julian?