A Lieberman wrote:

On Jul 16, 3:59 pm, Mark Hansen wrote:


Why don't you think 91.185 applies once you break out of the clouds?
Did you cancel your IFR clearance at that point? If not, aren't you
still flying by IFR?


Actually it's a visual, I didn't mean VFR.

My point being landing is not an instrument procedure and has it's own
set of rules.

I don't think light guns apply to IFR procedures, but we all have to
land, and that landing clearance rules are distinctly different then
the approach clearance rules given in 91.185. Otherwise, I would
imagine the 91.185 would have light gun references in there?

"VMC" is the term you are searching for. VMC does not necessairly mean
I can see the ATCT or that they can see me. And, even if I "break out"
at 400 feet, my priority is alignment with the runway and landing.

And, on some approaches you never do "break out," rather the visual cues
progressively come into view. Have you ever flown an ILS IAP with the
weather reported "zero zero" and the RVR at 2,400 (or becoming more
prevailent, 1800)?