"Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" wrote in message
...
Actual Oxyclean User wrote:

"David E. Powell" wrote in message
s.com...

Not to mention the footage I have seen of people setting up factories
and
working hot steel in buildings with no roofs on yet and snow coming
down.
There aren't words for that kind of bravery.

You need to be a little more specific about bravery when you talk about
the
Russians. Much of their bravery came at the muzzle of an NKVD rifle. The
Moscow panic was brutally surpressed by the NKVD. If you didn't work
long
hard hours in those factories, you could be shot. NKVD units were
generally
interspersed with regular units. Anyone not showing sufficient
enthusiasm
for marching into a Nazi machine gun nest would be shot in the back. The
end
of the war did not bring relief but did bring into being the gulag
system of
slave labor.

Then there is the issue of the Russians that welcomed the Nazis hoping
to
get rid of the Communists. Ukranians, although not Russians, were often
quite happy to see the Germans, especially remembering that Stalin's
famine
caused about 4 million of them to die.

While Chechans were storming the Reichstag, their families back home
were
being deported to Siberia.

Oxycleam
Your comments would be much more credible, if you had your 'facts'
in better shape.
The gulag was in official existance from ~1919 through 1956. It did
not come into existance at the end of WW2. Moreover political prisons
and forced labor camps have existed in the Russian empire longer than
just that. E.g. construction battalions for St. Petersburg and the
Vyshnii Volochek System of canals.
The 1932-33 Holodomor claimed about 7 million not 4.


I don't think Stalin kept count.

--
Rostyk