"Howard Nelson" wrote in message
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Actually our local controllers (if sierra approach can be called local)
are
pretty much on top of this since what they issue is: "Cleared to xxxx via
xxx departure. Climb to and maintain xxxx. If not in VFR conditions by
xxxxx
maintain xxxxx and report." No VFR ON TOP in their clearances.


But there should be a VFR-on-top in a VFR-on-top clearance.