"Big John" wrote in message
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Robert

Finally out of Hospital (

Lets hope the outcome is better than you first anticapated.

Best Wishes,
Jonathan Lowe.


Any idea where we can get the Wx briefing he got? They well could
have
forecast the wx correctly and included the wind that did him in.

Big John

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 00:02:23 +0000,
(Robert Bonomi) wrote:

In article ,
Andrew Rowley wrote:
(Robert Bonomi) wrote:

I'd suggest it is far _worse_ form for the PIC *not* to have
"made sure of"
the necessary resources =in=advance=/


If a pilot makes an "emergency" (or otherwise) landing in a
farmer's field,
is that farmer obligated in any way to sell him fuel from his
farm holding
tank, so he can fly the plane back out?

What, if *anything*, is different about the two scenarios?

Presumably, Jon *knew* he was going to need fuel when he got
there.

WHY DIDN'T HE MAKE ADVANCE ARRANGEMENTS to ship _his_own_ fuel
there?

What 'flight services' were listed as available at that
location?
Betcha it's "no services".

My understanding is he wasn't actually planning to go there.
There are
probably a number of problems with shipping fuel to places you
are not
planning to go, just in case:
- it's expensive to ship it there
- you may have to ship it out again if you don't use it - I'm not
sure
whether they would let you leave it there indefinitely


So? It costs money. Big deal. It's called "the cost of
insurance".

If his planning/methodology is as good as people are claiming, he
_knew_
that he might have to 'divert' there. And he _consciously_
chose -not- to
have that 'insurance' in place *IF* he did have to divert there.

As events unfolded, he _does_ need the insurance that he decided
not to have.

If it was an 'informed' decision, in retrospect it was the -wrong-
decision,
and the fact remains that he's got nobody to blame but himself
for making
*that* choice.

If it was an *UN-INFORMED* decision, then it is clear that the
failure lies
with the decision-maker. For -not- properly researching things
_before_
making the decision.


There is no 'third possibility'. Thus, _however_ that
*fatally*flawed*
decision was made, John bears the responsibility for it. And he
has to
"live with" the consequences of that bad decision.


Yeah, it'd be "nice" if the NSF would "bail him out". However,
they
have *NO*OBLIGATION*WHATSOEVER* to do so.

They have what *THEY* believe to be good reasons for _not_ doing
so.
Including, but not limited to: "the next bozo who shows up in like
circumstances, and yells 'discrimination', when we refuse to
supply
him, given that we _did_ supply somebody else."

With the exception of a _very_limited_ collection of 'personal
belongings',
*everything* on that base comes out of "somebody's" budget, and
material
_and_ labor has to be cost-accounted for. "Rescuing stranded
adventurers"
is simply _not_ in the budget. _Any_ materials used for such
purposes have
to be replaced. This consumes people's time, reduces the materials
available
for 'primary purpose' of the facility for an _indefinite_ period
(until
replaced), and raises a potential nightmare of logistics
consequences.

EVERYTHING is 'rationed', and consumption in excess of projected
levels
_is_ a big issue.


*GIVEN* that "somebody" is going to have to: arrange for
'supplies' for
Johanson to be shipped in (either what he actually uses, *or* the
'replacement'
for material from on-site inventory), *pay* for the materials,
*pay* for
the transport, etc., etc., ad nauseum. *WHY* should the NSF take
on those
chores, vs Mr. Johanson _doing_it_himself_?

Possible reasons Mr. Johanson isn't doing it for himself:
1) doesn't have the know-how and/or contacts
2) doesn't have the financial resources
3) traffic to/from the area is 'restricted'

We can eliminate #3, since occasional tourist ships go there.


The 'far frontiers' *ARE* an "attractive nuisance". They draw the
kooks,
loonies, and glory-seekers like a magnet. *WITHOUT* considering
whether
Mr. Johanson fits that description, It *is* a fact that "helping"
him
return from his botched 'adventure' *WOULD* cause those who _do_
fit the
"kooks, loonies, and glory-seekers" categorization to be more
likely to
make their own *ill-prepared* attempts. Resulting in _bigger_
drains on
the *limited* resources available.