In message , lisieux
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"Paul J. Adam" wrote in message
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Talk to a few who have used it. It's interesting how the "it's crap and
we hate it" mindset of the early 1990s has changed among soldiers who
have (a) used it on operations, (b) seen other weapons used on
operations.

A group of British soldiers spoke to an American lady about the crisis
in North Belfast, I was standing next to the group, I asked the
soldier holding the eapon what he thought of it, he said it was
"crap".

Had he used it in combat and seen how other forces' weapons performed?

He then remarked to the American lady that he thought her soldiers had
a real rifle. His coleagues who ere living out of a Saxon vehicle
agreed with the soldier doing the talking.

An opinion not entirely shared by UK troops currently returning from
Afghanistan and Iraq. The US has a serviceable and proven weapon but it
hasn't proven to be fault-free or perfect either.

Again, I'd be curious about the experience of the troops involved. My
most recent contact was with sergeants, colour-sergeants and WO2s
recently returned from operational deployments where they had used their
rifles in action; and they were solidly positive (and in a few cases
rueful that they'd bitched so much in the past)

'I have no opinion on the SA80 matter other than to note that I've not
actually encountered a favourable review of the weapon from a serving
soldier'

Try asking a few more, especially those who have been deployed
operationally.

As I'm unlikely ever to use one, I've no personal opinion on the
matter other than it looks like a ergonomic copy of a 1949 rifle the
British contemplated adopting. I'd sooner have a Martini-Henry Mark
IV.

Your loss: you gain stopping power but lose range and rate of fire. How
well do you shoot and reload with 5.56mm ball through your torso?

'So, Brits had to adopt another design, but this is also another
story. There's also some rumors that infamous British SA80 / L85
assault rifle, introduced in 1980s, was based on the EM-2 design. It
is not true, since the crappy L85 has nothing in common with EM-2
except for general external "bullpup" layout.'

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as59-e.htm

I think the wording is its own evidence as to veracity, don't you?



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