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**tankfixer**

In article 25981310-6d6d-4057-8871-4fc6e6e776c3
@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com, says...
On Nov 19, 12:07 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
"dott.Piergiorgio" wrote:

:Fred J. McCall ha scritto:
:
: I guess you're just a stupid troll who is unable to correct his own
: ignorance and so has to engage in stupid strawman arguments, as above.
:
: Hint: I know more about the Soviet Navy and Soviet shipbuilding than
: you ever will.
:
: Hint: There's a big difference between 'naval shipbuilding' and
: suddenly building and operating a bunch of carrier battle groups.
:
: Hint: The United States, with a bigger shipbuilding establishment,
: more money, and a long history of carrier aviation and everything
: associated with it, NEVER build at the rate the Russians claim they
: are going to sustain.
:
: Hint: The Russians talk about a lot of things. They actually do very
: few of them. Just think of it as a modern version of Potemkin
: Villages.
:
ear Fred:
:
:Let's return to the topic. I known that you known well about soviet
:Navy, in your opinion, the (relatively) little knowledge in CV
:construction accrued by the soviet, through Moskvas, Kievs and
:Kutnetzovs is lost in the last 15 or so years or not ?
:

The problem isn't pure construction. However, none of those ships are
actually aircraft carriers. They range from helicopter carriers that
the USSR quickly discovered weren't big enough for the job (hence only
building a pair of Moskvas rather than the 12 originally planned)
through a strike cruiser with aviation assets (Kiev, with a handful of
very limited fixed wing assets) up through what I would call an
aviation-capable strike cruiser (Kutnetzov) with a few dozen
relatively capable fixed-wing aircraft.

The real issue is that they won't be able to come up with crews and
infrastructure on the scale they're talking about even if they can
design a real carrier and build them that fast (keeping in mind that
they'd also be cranking out escorts and such at the same time).

Funny how the Allies managed to build literally hundreds of warships
and thousands of freighters and managed to man them all in 6 short
years of war.

Funny how the Russians didn't......