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Old December 2nd 07, 05:04 AM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
Fred J. McCall
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Default Russian Carrier Plans Part One

tankfixer wrote:

:In article ,
says...
: tankfixer wrote:
:
: :In article a86ec029-67d2-48c9-916b-4fd3b945b993
: , says...
: :
: : Now you're trying to tell us that Russia has NO shipyards and no deep
: : water ports.
: :
: :
: :None with ready access to the worlds oceans.....
: :
:
: Sorry, but you need to buy a map. Once you do, find Murmansk and
: Vladivostok. Unless you maintain that the Atlantic and Pacific are
: not part of "the worlds [sic] oceans" your comment above stands shown
: as false.
:
:Funny how to transit out of Vladivostok you have to pass through fairly
:narrow straits not under the control of Russia.
:

This pretty well applies to any port anywhere, if someone is waiting
for you. If they go north they can stay in waters controlled by them
until in open ocean.

:
:One of which has a bit of bad karma when it comes to the Russian
:Fleet...
:
:Murmansk has a bit of a problem with year round access too.
:

Don't tell them that. They go in and out of there year round. I've
been up there in October and November and it all looked pretty ice
free from what I could see.


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