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Old May 8th 06, 04:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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true... but if he is heavy and slow.. he will not be clean..

Just how long do you think they keep the gear and flaps down?


Long enough to take off and establish positive rate of climb. After that,
you're not going to be keeping up with them anyway.

-c