David- No worst than what FDR was for about two to three years after
Pearl Harbor. It takes the military a while to get its act
together. BRBR

Horse****-The military had it **** together from about the late 80s or so, when
I was in, on an aircarft catrier and as evidenced by the 100 hr 'war' with
Iraq. It was/is designed to be mobile and fight, fight anything from small to
large conflicts, NOT be policemen or border guards. Were yo ever in the
military, i forget, but your comments speak volumes about what you 'seem' to
know about the military of the 80s thru today.

David As for the military killing people and breaking things, those
days are long gone. International law of war really forces us to
be far more selective. BRBR

Garbage and how much 'international law' was ignored when we preemtively
invaded Iraq.

David For the most part
the military and the police tend to work under the same rules. BRBR

Bull**** again. If there were friendlies being held by bad guys the police
would mobilize a whole team of negotiators, the military would storm the house.
there would be no due process and no attempt to enusre nobody was hurt, they
would smoke anybody in the house, as evidenced by the attack on Saddams sons.


david To a certain extend, yes. Just as law enforcement may arrest
someone who has not yet committed a crime but has been planning
one. BRBR

Attacking a country, killing any combatants they come across is not 'arresting
somebody that is suspected of something'. You are confusing the police with the
military and they are NOT the same.


david As for Saddam, it does appear that he was supporting
terrorists, including al Qaeda, which includes training bases in
northern Iraq. With Sad dam gone, most of the "structure" of the
middle East is gone. It basically destabilize the whole region. BRBR


tyou really aren't that clueless are you?

It is an attempt to nation build a country that is western(meaning USA) leaning
in the back yard of other Arab nations that are not. It just isn't working and
the military is taking the brunt of it all.


P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer