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What glider if not a Speed Astir?
So some of you really don't think to highly of the Speed Astir. What then would
be your recommendations for a first glider for a low time pilot training & soloing in a G103 II A? I need something under $20,000. that will keep me happy for a while. Thanks for your input! David |
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The Pegase would fit the bill perfectly.
The LS-4 or Jantar Std 3 as well, but they would cost a bit more. "Flyhighdave" wrote in message ... So some of you really don't think to highly of the Speed Astir. What then would be your recommendations for a first glider for a low time pilot training & soloing in a G103 II A? I need something under $20,000. that will keep me happy for a while. Thanks for your input! David |
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Flyhighdave wrote:
So some of you really don't think to highly of the Speed Astir. What then would be your recommendations for a first glider for a low time pilot training & soloing in a G103 II A? I need something under $20,000. that will keep me happy for a while. Thanks for your input! David Mosquito, ASW-19, Libelle, 1-34 (in N. America). |
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The ASW-19 would do as well as the Pegase, not quite as good a performance,
but should be cheaper. The ASW-19 was the machine of choice for the U.K. team in the Junior Sport Class World Gliding Championships this year, it has also been bought by the Surrey & Hants. gliding club for their early pilots, they have the biggest single seater fleet of any civilian club in the U.K. I agree about the Pegase and LS-4, I am not familiar with the Jantar Standard. In my own opinion, the ASW-19 is a nice glider and I would always be happy to fly one. The Pegase is nicer, and the LS-4 nicer still. This is also the order of performance, and of price. W.J. (Bill) Dean (U.K.). Remove "ic" to reply. "Arnold Pieper" wrote in message . com... The Pegase would fit the bill perfectly. The LS-4 or Jantar Std 3 as well, but they would cost a bit more. "Flyhighdave" wrote in message ... So some of you really don't think to highly of the Speed Astir. What then would be your recommendations for a first glider for a low time pilot training & soloing in a G103 II A? I need something under $20,000 that will keep me happy for a while. Thanks for your input! David |
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Libelle or Kestral both under $20K
.... Maybe an LS-4 on the higher cost side. BT "Flyhighdave" wrote in message ... So some of you really don't think to highly of the Speed Astir. What then would be your recommendations for a first glider for a low time pilot training & soloing in a G103 II A? I need something under $20,000. that will keep me happy for a while. Thanks for your input! David |
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Well, a Jantar Standard 2/3 or Junior (depending what You like more - LD
40:1 or extremely easy handling respectively) would be perfect I think. If You'll be looking hard, guys from my club have found Jantars in CIS fo r a bargain price, and now we have 6 of them at our field. You may look f or them also. Regards, -- Janusz Kesik visit www.leszno.pl - home of the www.css-leszno.it.pl |
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Are you seriously recommending the Kestrel to a low
hours pilot? Fifteen million knobs and levers, some of which make life very interesting very quickly, big glider handling and flaps. Sheesh. At 04:30 11 December 2003, Btiz wrote: Libelle or Kestral both under $20K .... Maybe an LS-4 on the higher cost side. BT 'Flyhighdave' wrote in message ... So some of you really don't think to highly of the Speed Astir. What then would be your recommendations for a first glider for a low time pilot training & soloing in a G103 II A? I need something under $20,000. that will keep me happy for a while. Thanks for your input! David |
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The only major drawback with a Kestrel is the speed
control (the airbrakes make a nice noise and that is about all) needed for landing: getting into a short field, or even a long one can be a challenge but with the right training it is not impossible. (The extra levers etc are not a problem in practice) I think that I would have to say that the Kestrel is probably safer for a low hours pilot than a Libelle. The Libelle is a very fine glider but it can also get very interesting very quickly, probably quicker than a Kestrel. My personal choice would be a Discus, very easy to fly and no real nasties but I have no idea of the price of one your side of the pond. I would agree with the choice of an ASW 19 the only problem is the size of the cockpit. Like my ASW17 a challenge to fit if you are tall. As an aside the is a file on www.gliderpilot.net in File Downloads which describes a modification for Kestrel airbrakes which does help a little. Do not expect Grob 103/ASK21 airbrake performance from this mod At 09:18 11 December 2003, Andrew Warbrick wrote: Are you seriously recommending the Kestrel to a low hours pilot? Fifteen million knobs and levers, some of which make life very interesting very quickly, big glider handling and flaps. Sheesh. At 04:30 11 December 2003, Btiz wrote: Libelle or Kestral both under $20K .... Maybe an LS-4 on the higher cost side. BT 'Flyhighdave' wrote in message ... So some of you really don't think to highly of the Speed Astir. What then would be your recommendations for a first glider for a low time pilot training & soloing in a G103 II A? I need something under $20,000. that will keep me happy for a while. Thanks for your input! David |
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Dave,
Ignore the kestrel and the junior. Most of the other suggestions are pretty reasonable. Jantar - looks ugly but has lots of poke Libelle - actually goes better than people think. You just need to fly it properly Cirrus - goes well ASW-19 - nice handling, looks good and has a bit of poke Pegase - nearly the same as the 19. LS4 - if you can stretch to this get one. Ignore all of the above, if you cant then see above! BTW. There is a good deal on a Pegase on wings and wheels which may be of interest to you. (commission payable to Owain Walters!) Owain |
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Why not http://www.apisgliders.com/ : brand new... sexy... lightweight...
38-40:1... "Flyhighdave" wrote in message ... So some of you really don't think to highly of the Speed Astir. What then would be your recommendations for a first glider for a low time pilot training & soloing in a G103 II A? I need something under $20,000. that will keep me happy for a while. Thanks for your input! David |
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