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Hangar construction question - Level Hangars?
Our City Council recently had some t-hangars built at KRBG. They were
built on a slope, I think 1.5%. The doors open real easily one way, and need help going the other way. The floors aren't level, the walls aren't vertical, albeit not by very much. My question is: Doesn't this cause some structural problems? If a snow load is put on these hangars, doesn't that put a lateral load on the vertical columns? I don't ever remember a building being built where the walls weren't vertical. Al G |
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Hangar construction question - Level Hangars?
On Dec 17, 10:19 am, "Al G" wrote:
Our City Council recently had some t-hangars built at KRBG. They were built on a slope, I think 1.5%. The doors open real easily one way, and need help going the other way. The floors aren't level, the walls aren't vertical, albeit not by very much. My question is: Doesn't this cause some structural problems? If a snow load is put on these hangars, doesn't that put a lateral load on the vertical columns? I don't ever remember a building being built where the walls weren't vertical. Al G Hard to believe they passed a building inspection, or received a CO. Ben |
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Hangar construction question - Level Hangars?
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wrote: On Dec 17, 10:19 am, "Al G" wrote: Our City Council recently had some t-hangars built at KRBG. They were built on a slope, I think 1.5%. The doors open real easily one way, and need help going the other way. The floors aren't level, the walls aren't vertical, albeit not by very much. My question is: Doesn't this cause some structural problems? If a snow load is put on these hangars, doesn't that put a lateral load on the vertical columns? I don't ever remember a building being built where the walls weren't vertical. Al G Hard to believe they passed a building inspection, or received a CO. I could understand a sloped floor for drainage or something, but non-vertical walls? |
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Hangar construction question - Level Hangars?
"Gig601XLBuilder" wrote in message ... wrote: On Dec 17, 10:19 am, "Al G" wrote: Our City Council recently had some t-hangars built at KRBG. They were built on a slope, I think 1.5%. The doors open real easily one way, and need help going the other way. The floors aren't level, the walls aren't vertical, albeit not by very much. My question is: Doesn't this cause some structural problems? If a snow load is put on these hangars, doesn't that put a lateral load on the vertical columns? I don't ever remember a building being built where the walls weren't vertical. Al G Hard to believe they passed a building inspection, or received a CO. Ben It all kind of depends on how they were offset from vertical. _______ / \ / \ / \ Is going to be stronger than... _____________ \ / \ / \ / Of course, if you have this... ___________ \ \ \ \ \ \ You're screwed. Yep, the last one. I've been inside, and saw no special diagonal bracing. The interior is supported by a large steel "T"'s running East/West, with the posts landing in the middle wall. The hangars open East & West, and the slope is North/South. It appears that only the hangar skin is supporting any load diagonally, and that has the doors cut in it. In addition, the distance from doors to the middle wall is shorter than the distance from the middle wall to the back of the hangar. A Bonanza, 210, or Warrior all stick out of the door. I guess something like a T-Craft or Cub would fit. These are brand new $200/month T-Hangars, fingers are being pointed, and the airport manager just quit. I don't know if it matters, but keep in mind, this is a city building. They have not needed to comply with the buried drainage ditches like all the other builders. One of their drainage gutters came out 9" above the hangar line it was to protect. An Audit is underway. Al G |
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Hangar construction question - Level Hangars?
These are brand new $200/month T-Hangars, fingers are being pointed, and
the airport manager just quit. I don't know if it matters, but keep in mind, this is a city building. They have not needed to comply with the buried drainage ditches like all the other builders. One of their drainage gutters came out 9" above the hangar line it was to protect. An Audit is underway. If this was anything but an airport issue, I'd recommend calling the local newspaper. Unfortunately, they'd probably twist this whole screwed-up mess into an anti-airport article -- so perhaps working inside the city (guaranteed to be frustrating and maybe damned-near impossible) to get this fixed is best. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Hangar construction question - Level Hangars?
On Dec 17, 12:46 pm, "Al G" wrote:
"Gig601XLBuilder" wrote in message ... wrote: On Dec 17, 10:19 am, "Al G" wrote: Our City Council recently had some t-hangars built at KRBG. They were built on a slope, I think 1.5%. The doors open real easily one way, and need help going the other way. The floors aren't level, the walls aren't vertical, albeit not by very much. My question is: Doesn't this cause some structural problems? If a snow load is put on these hangars, doesn't that put a lateral load on the vertical columns? I don't ever remember a building being built where the walls weren't vertical. Al G Hard to believe they passed a building inspection, or received a CO. Ben It all kind of depends on how they were offset from vertical. _______ / \ / \ / \ Is going to be stronger than... _____________ \ / \ / \ / Of course, if you have this... ___________ \ \ \ \ \ \ You're screwed. Yep, the last one. I've been inside, and saw no special diagonal bracing. The interior is supported by a large steel "T"'s running East/West, with the posts landing in the middle wall. The hangars open East & West, and the slope is North/South. It appears that only the hangar skin is supporting any load diagonally, and that has the doors cut in it. In addition, the distance from doors to the middle wall is shorter than the distance from the middle wall to the back of the hangar. A Bonanza, 210, or Warrior all stick out of the door. I guess something like a T-Craft or Cub would fit. These are brand new $200/month T-Hangars, fingers are being pointed, and the airport manager just quit. I don't know if it matters, but keep in mind, this is a city building. They have not needed to comply with the buried drainage ditches like all the other builders. One of their drainage gutters came out 9" above the hangar line it was to protect. An Audit is underway. Al G- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A Warrior can't fit ???? Geez, That is a BIG screw up. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ben www.haaspowerair.com Home of the "beast" My first 500 hours were in my own Warrior, N4341X.. I loved that plane..... |
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Hangar construction question - Level Hangars?
wrote in message ... On Dec 17, 12:46 pm, "Al G" wrote: "Gig601XLBuilder" wrote in message ... wrote: On Dec 17, 10:19 am, "Al G" wrote: Our City Council recently had some t-hangars built at KRBG. They were built on a slope, I think 1.5%. The doors open real easily one way, and need help going the other way. The floors aren't level, the walls aren't vertical, albeit not by very much. My question is: Doesn't this cause some structural problems? If a snow load is put on these hangars, doesn't that put a lateral load on the vertical columns? I don't ever remember a building being built where the walls weren't vertical. Al G Hard to believe they passed a building inspection, or received a CO. Ben It all kind of depends on how they were offset from vertical. _______ / \ / \ / \ Is going to be stronger than... _____________ \ / \ / \ / Of course, if you have this... ___________ \ \ \ \ \ \ You're screwed. Yep, the last one. I've been inside, and saw no special diagonal bracing. The interior is supported by a large steel "T"'s running East/West, with the posts landing in the middle wall. The hangars open East & West, and the slope is North/South. It appears that only the hangar skin is supporting any load diagonally, and that has the doors cut in it. In addition, the distance from doors to the middle wall is shorter than the distance from the middle wall to the back of the hangar. A Bonanza, 210, or Warrior all stick out of the door. I guess something like a T-Craft or Cub would fit. These are brand new $200/month T-Hangars, fingers are being pointed, and the airport manager just quit. I don't know if it matters, but keep in mind, this is a city building. They have not needed to comply with the buried drainage ditches like all the other builders. One of their drainage gutters came out 9" above the hangar line it was to protect. An Audit is underway. Al G- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A Warrior can't fit ???? Geez, That is a BIG screw up. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not necessarily. My home field is installing 3 different sizes of T and Box hangars sized for different types of aircraft. Some are sized for twins up to MU-2 sized, others are for singles and small twins, and others will fit smaller aircraft such as AA-1's, RV's, and ultralights. I'm not saying this is a great solution, but in my airport's situation, it did result in the best use of the available land. Ben www.haaspowerair.com Home of the "beast" My first 500 hours were in my own Warrior, N4341X.. I loved that plane..... |
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