XCSoar 6.3- Horizon Disabled.

Thanks to Max and crew for making this version of 6.3 available for
USA soaring pilots.

Just downloaded the program for the Streak and hope to fly with it
later this week.

Your efforts are VERY MUCH APPRECIATED!

Thanks you.

Mike Carris

+1. Pointless but +1!

I will happily pay anyone who can cloud fly (/= 1500 ft gain) with the XC Soar mobile phone AH data field (only XC soar, no other AH) a $1000 prize.. Just send me video of the act with clear audio describing your feat as it happens. The video must be suitable to absolutely identify as you (the prize winner) and must be complete with the time and date, witnesses, flight location, aircraft registration (must be a contest glider) and of course your pilots license... Your reward will be prompt and payment will be honored! Good luck.

This offer is not valid for any real electronic AH system such as LXNAV or Butterfly... Only dysfunctional and useless mobile phone or tablet based (no real, fixed gyro's) installations of XC Soar with its 1cm square AH display is valid. Happy thermals!

This offer expires in 90 days.

On Tuesday, April 3, 2012 11:22:23 PM UTC-4, Mike C wrote:
Thanks to Max and crew for making this version of 6.3 available for
USA soaring pilots.

Just downloaded the program for the Streak and hope to fly with it
later this week.

Your efforts are VERY MUCH APPRECIATED!

Thanks you.

Mike Carris

On Apr 4, 6:33*am, Sean Fidler wrote:
+1. *Pointless but +1!

I will happily pay anyone who can cloud fly (/= 1500 ft gain) with the XC Soar mobile phone AH data field (only XC soar, no other AH) a $1000 prize. *Just send me video of the act with clear audio describing your feat as it happens. *The video must be suitable to absolutely identify as you (the prize winner) and must be complete with the time and date, witnesses, flight location, aircraft registration (must be a contest glider) and of course your pilots license... *Your reward will be prompt and payment will be honored! *Good luck.

This offer is not valid for any real electronic AH system such as LXNAV or Butterfly... *Only dysfunctional and useless mobile phone or tablet based (no real, fixed gyro's) installations of XC Soar with its 1cm square AH display is valid. *Happy thermals!

This offer expires in 90 days.



On Tuesday, April 3, 2012 11:22:23 PM UTC-4, Mike C wrote:
Thanks to Max and crew for making this version of 6.3 *available for
USA soaring pilots.

Just downloaded the program for the Streak and hope to fly with it
later this week.

Your efforts are VERY MUCH APPRECIATED!

Thanks you.

Mike Carris- Hide quoted text -

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Yehaaa! I'll load it tonight! (not that I fly any contests)

The FAA might also be interested in seeing that video with all the
identifying information...


"Sean Fidler" wrote in message
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+1. Pointless but +1!

I will happily pay anyone who can cloud fly (/= 1500 ft gain) with the XC
Soar mobile phone AH data field (only XC soar, no other AH) a $1000 prize.
Just send me video of the act with clear audio describing your feat as it
happens. The video must be suitable to absolutely identify as you (the
prize winner) and must be complete with the time and date, witnesses, flight
location, aircraft registration (must be a contest glider) and of course
your pilots license... Your reward will be prompt and payment will be
honored! Good luck.

This offer is not valid for any real electronic AH system such as LXNAV or
Butterfly... Only dysfunctional and useless mobile phone or tablet based
(no real, fixed gyro's) installations of XC Soar with its 1cm square AH
display is valid. Happy thermals!

This offer expires in 90 days.

On Tuesday, April 3, 2012 11:22:23 PM UTC-4, Mike C wrote:
Thanks to Max and crew for making this version of 6.3 available for
USA soaring pilots.

Just downloaded the program for the Streak and hope to fly with it
later this week.

Your efforts are VERY MUCH APPRECIATED!

Thanks you.

Mike Carris

Mike C wrote:
Thanks to Max and crew for making this version of 6.3 available for
USA soaring pilots.

I did not contribute to this version. It is not an official XCSoar
release, even though the publisher confusingly calls himself "XCSoar
developers". I will not provide support for this build.

It's open source and that means anybody may publish modified versions.
Power to the people :-)

Max

On Apr 4, 3:08*pm, Max Kellermann wrote:
Mike C wrote:
Thanks to Max and crew for making this version of 6.3 *available for
USA soaring pilots.

I did not contribute to this version. *It is not an official XCSoar
release, even though the publisher confusingly calls himself "XCSoar
developers". *I will not provide support for this build.

It's open source and that means anybody may publish modified versions.
Power to the people :-)

Max

I want a full IFR version that looks exactly like whatever gets
sanctioned... :-)

Sean, Hi.

If I had the right sort of phone, I’d like to try your challenge over
in the UK. But I haven’t, so I can’t, so your challenge is safe from
me.

By the way, have you ever heard of people cloud flying successfully
without a gyro instrument at all?

Just wondering.

Chris N.

:-), I am sure my challenge could be achieved and probably was foolish to not also note (which I will now) that "this feat must be done in the USA."

The point of my challenge is that the person while winning $1000 would be reported to the FAA and stripped of their licence almost without question. So nobody will do it.

In terms of cloud flying I am sure it can be accomplished in many ways by many highly skilled foreign (and perhaps american) pilots. As long as that is legal in your country...I think its great. If you can do it without instruments...I am slightly impressed. Do you have video?

But it is important to point out that I actually do agree with the general rule of no cloud flying in the USA. I have no intention of cloud flying no matter what the payoff. I think cloud flying in non IFR equipped gliders (in the USA or anywhere frankly) is extremely dangerous. That said I strongly believe that banning cell phones is not the way to deter cloud flying. I think there are far better methods for policing cloud flying that would be much less irritating to pilots who wish to have modern navigation systems in their ships...which basically all have AH's because the US is only a small fraction of the global market.

I'm going to play with my close encounters light board some more and see if we can get that basic vocabulary to sink in...

Sean

On Wednesday, April 4, 2012 6:31:36 PM UTC-4, Chris Nicholas wrote:
Sean, Hi.

If I had the right sort of phone, I’d like to try your challenge over
in the UK. But I haven’t, so I can’t, so your challenge is safe from
me.

By the way, have you ever heard of people cloud flying successfully
without a gyro instrument at all?

Just wondering.

Chris N.

On Wednesday, April 4, 2012 6:46:03 PM UTC-4, Sean F2 wrote:
:-), I am sure my challenge could be achieved and probably was foolish to not also note (which I will now) that "this feat must be done in the USA."

The point of my challenge is that the person while winning $1000 would be reported to the FAA and stripped of their licence almost without question. So nobody will do it.

Just to throw a fun bit of a wrench into your non-challenge, Sean, what about the case where a two-seat glider is flown by one of the pilots using an IFR hood and the other pilot as the "safety" pilot flying VFR if something goes amiss?. In this scenario, the pilot using the hood is effectively in IMC (the hood), but the safety would be in VMC and no actual cloud-flying need occur! However, is it legal to use a hood in a glider?

On Wednesday, April 4, 2012 5:31:36 PM UTC-5, Chris Nicholas wrote:
Sean, Hi.

If I had the right sort of phone, I’d like to try your challenge over
in the UK. But I haven’t, so I can’t, so your challenge is safe from
me.

By the way, have you ever heard of people cloud flying successfully
without a gyro instrument at all?

Just wondering.

Chris N.

yes, plenty of stories of no instrument cloud flying in pre-WWII gliding books and magazines. Sometimes it ended successfully and sometimes not. Sometimes "Successfully" was measured by surviving to tell about it.