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"Bill Daniels"  wrote in message news:aa4Fc.11095$7t3.8707@attbi_s51... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
		
	
	
	Most hawks circling low are looking for rodents, not lift. Bill Daniels But many times I have shared thermals with Hawks at high altitude. How did they get there if not by working thermals at low altitude? I have never been in a thermal with a Red Tailed Hawk that didn't seem to be trying to optimize climb rate. Turkey Vultures are a different story. They seem to be happy with any sloppy thermal technique as long as they maintain altitude. Andy  | 
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