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Old June 3rd 07, 03:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Maher
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This is rich. The [Anti] American Civil Liberties Union, also known for
its staunch support of the North American Man-Boy Lovers Association
(NAMBLA), just filed a suit of Boeing's Jeppesen subsidiary. The
reason? The ACLU is accusing Jeppesen for providing flight services to
the CIA, which Boeing "knew or should have known," was using for the
purpose of "torturing" terrorists.

Even assuming for the purpose of the argument that the CIA was actually
torturing terrorists, why would Jeppesen be at fault? They merely
provide navigation support and handling for air traffic control, fuel
requirements, formalities, etc. for airplanes. Somehow ACLU wants to
hold Jeppesen responsible for running a torture chamber too.

Why not sue the company that made the diodes in the VOR beacons that the
flights may have used, or the headset manufacturer too? What a pity
that valuable court resources are consumed by the ACLU's bilge.

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Old June 3rd 07, 03:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Vaughn Simon
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"Jim Maher" wrote in message
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hold Jeppesen responsible for running a torture chamber too.

Why not sue the company that made the diodes in the VOR beacons that the
flights may have used, or the headset manufacturer too? What a pity
that valuable court resources are consumed by the ACLU's bilge.


I am not quits as down on the ACLU as you are, but this also strikes me as a
heluva stretch. I don't see how they could possibly win the case, but perhaps
their intent is simply to make it harder for the government to do business.
Since private companies can not afford to continually be sued, many may simply
opt to decline government business.


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Old June 3rd 07, 06:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
tom laudato
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"Vaughn Simon" wrote in message
...

"Jim Maher" wrote in message
...
hold Jeppesen responsible for running a torture chamber too.

Why not sue the company that made the diodes in the VOR beacons that the
flights may have used, or the headset manufacturer too? What a pity
that valuable court resources are consumed by the ACLU's bilge.


I am not quits as down on the ACLU as you are, but this also strikes me as

a
heluva stretch. I don't see how they could possibly win the case, but

perhaps
their intent is simply to make it harder for the government to do

business.
Since private companies can not afford to continually be sued, many may

simply
opt to decline government business.

I rmember reading that they get paid for there time if they win the law
suit.....if they win a few along the way i do not think they worry about
losing a few...tom


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Old June 4th 07, 01:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
john smith[_2_]
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Default ACLU sues Jeppesen for Flights

This suit reminds me of the ones cities brought against the handgun
manufacturers. The courts will toss this one out, as well.
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Old June 4th 07, 01:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert Barker
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"Vaughn Simon" wrote in message
...

"Jim Maher" wrote in message
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hold Jeppesen responsible for running a torture chamber too.

Why not sue the company that made the diodes in the VOR beacons that the
flights may have used, or the headset manufacturer too? What a pity
that valuable court resources are consumed by the ACLU's bilge.


I am not quits as down on the ACLU as you are, but this also strikes me as
a heluva stretch. I don't see how they could possibly win the case, but
perhaps their intent is simply to make it harder for the government to do
business. Since private companies can not afford to continually be sued,
many may simply opt to decline government business.


Perhaps they're using this suit to get information under "discovery" to find
out what the CIA is really up to. Then when they get the info, they'll drop
the suit and go after the real perps...


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Old June 4th 07, 02:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Paul Tomblin
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In a previous article, "Robert Barker" said:
Perhaps they're using this suit to get information under "discovery" to find
out what the CIA is really up to. Then when they get the info, they'll drop
the suit and go after the real perps...


You can't sue the government. You can only hold them accountable at
election time.


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Old June 4th 07, 02:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Paul Tomblin wrote:
In a previous article, "Robert Barker" said:

Perhaps they're using this suit to get information under "discovery" to find
out what the CIA is really up to. Then when they get the info, they'll drop
the suit and go after the real perps...



You can't sue the government. You can only hold them accountable at
election time.


Sure you can. Happens every day. But you have to go to Federal Court
and they have to allow you to sue them.


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Old June 4th 07, 02:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose
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...and they have to allow you to sue them

That has always struck me as so odd. Why would they allow you to sue them?

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Old June 4th 07, 10:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
gatt
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"Robert Barker" wrote in message
...

Perhaps they're using this suit to get information under "discovery" to
find

out what the CIA is really up to. Then when they get the info, they'll
drop the suit and go after the real perps...


They should sue Evergreen if that's what they want. They flew from
McMinnville to the stepdown point for Groom Lake about a year ago.

'Course, the ACLU has probably never heard of it.

-c


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Old June 5th 07, 06:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Robert Barker wrote:
hold Jeppesen responsible for running a torture chamber too.

[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]

Perhaps they're using this suit to get information under "discovery" to find
out what the CIA is really up to. Then when they get the info, they'll drop
the suit and go after the real perps...


This current administration has been consistently expanding the power of the
executive thru a bizarre flurry of signing statements and other policy
decisions that severely threaten our rights under the constitution. It is
chilling to think Bush is applying his own interpretations to presented
legislation. A weaker mind / character in the presidency has never been.
It is agreed in most rational and civilized frames of belief that kidnapping
and torture are unacceptable. This is a simple moral issue. However, the
criminal constituency of our current administration has run amok under an
hysterical cry of "the war on terror". BULL****... kidnapping and torture is
terrorism.
If you believe that it is OK to torture other humans for reasons you think
are appropriate, remember that the same inquisitors will use similar methods
of logic to single you out for extermination when they are ready. The
continuing erosion of our civil rights are setting the stage for that
eventuality.

The ACLU is seeking discovery thru the channels that are most likely to
produce.

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