Adding on airplane

Nice piece on WBAL:

http://www.wbaltv.com/video/14641367/index.html

Adding on sport airplane privileges is a snap for rated glider pilots.
No formal FAA written or FAA checkride required.

On Nov 19, 3:04 pm, Helen wrote:
Nice piece on WBAL:

http://www.wbaltv.com/video/14641367/index.html

Adding on sport airplane privileges is a snap for rated glider pilots.
No formal FAA written or FAA checkride required.

Yes that's a good presention. thanks for sharing it. I have not
closely followed the regs for sport pilots as I already have most of
the aiplane ratings I want. Can you please tell me what reg allows
private rated glider pilots get a sport airplane rating without a
check ride?

Andy

On Nov 20, 6:53 am, Andy wrote:
On Nov 19, 3:04 pm, Helen wrote:


Andy,
Helen's comments need a little clarification. With only a glider
rating one would be able to fly a LSA AIRPLANE (note not aircraft) as
if one had a student certificate. There would still be the need for
instruction/solo and check ride. I am not sure - this comes from my
expert source an instructor - if there is a written. If one has any
rating in AIRPLANES then one does not need a checkride just instructor
sign off to fly the ship or what ever the insurance requires. One
does not need a FAA physical as long as they have a current state
issued drivers license. Now here is the kicker. If you have had your
FAA physical denied or revoked for any reason you can not fly LSA
class but if you have let it laps without the revocation or denial and
can certify lyour health ike you do for a glider then have fun. The
LSA limitations are - briefly- max weight 1320 lbs, daylight only, max
two passenger, max speed 120 kts., max altitude 10,000' (yes there is
a LSA glider rating but the 10,000' limitation is still there.)
Tom
Idaho




Nice piece on WBAL:

http://www.wbaltv.com/video/14641367/index.html

Adding on sport airplane privileges is a snap for rated glider pilots.
No formal FAA written or FAA checkride required.

Yes that's a good presention. thanks for sharing it. I have not
closely followed the regs for sport pilots as I already have most of
the aiplane ratings I want. Can you please tell me what reg allows
private rated glider pilots get a sport airplane rating without a
check ride?

Andy

Sorry Tom, Your "expert" instructor has been wrong before. After you
asked I did a bit more research and found the following on the AOPA
Sport Pilot FAQ.

Do I need to perform a check ride to get an additional category and/or
class rating?
************************************************** *************************************************
No, a check ride is not required. Rather, you will need to follow the
provisions of 14 CFR 61.321, which requires the following:

Receive a logbook endorsement for meeting aeronautical knowledge and
flight proficiency requirements.
Complete a proficiency check from an authorized instructor other than
the instructor who trained you on the aeronautical knowledge and areas
of operation specified.
Complete an FAA Form 8710-11, Airmen Certificate and/or Rating
Application, and present it to the instructor who conducted the
proficiency check.
Receive a logbook endorsement from the instructor who conducted the
proficiency check certifying that you are proficient in the applicable
knowledge and areas of operation and that you are authorized for the
additional category and class of light sport aircraft.
************************************************** ************************************************
This is also referenced in the Sport Pilot PTS.

Since a Glider Pilot already qualifies for Sport Pilot Privileges, It
appears to be true that you there is no written or Check ride required
to be done by the FAA or a Designee. Instead you take a "proficiency
check" administered by a flight instructor.


Brian
CFIIG/ASEL

On Nov 20, 8:07 am, " wrote:
issued drivers license. Now here is the kicker. If you have had your
FAA physical denied or revoked for any reason you can not fly LSA
class but if you have let it laps without the revocation or denial and
can certify lyour health ike you do for a glider then have fun. The
LSA limitations are - briefly- max weight 1320 lbs, daylight only, max
two passenger, max speed 120 kts., max altitude 10,000' (yes there is
a LSA glider rating but the 10,000' limitation is still there.)

So if you don't think you can get a medical, but have a driver's
license, and feel fit to fly, and want to fly an "airplane", then the
touring motorglider is still the better deal. Something like a
Diamond Katana Extreme or Stemme S6 will let you fly higher, at night,
and possibly faster than you could in a light sport airplane.

Ain't regulations fun?! :-)

wrote:
The
LSA limitations are - briefly- max weight 1320 lbs, daylight only, max
two passenger, max speed 120 kts., max altitude 10,000' (yes there is
a LSA glider rating but the 10,000' limitation is still there.)

Is the 10,000 ft MSL limitation on LSA certified aircraft, the pilot
operating under LSA privileges, or both? Can I fly an LSA certified
glider over 10,000 ft if, I'm operating on my private glider pilot
privileges? Can I fly an LSA compliant aircraft with a standard type
certificate (say Piper Cub) over 10,000 ft MSL, if I'm operating on LSA
privileges?

Marc

"Marc Ramsey" wrote in message
...
wrote:
The
LSA limitations are - briefly- max weight 1320 lbs, daylight only, max
two passenger, max speed 120 kts., max altitude 10,000' (yes there is
a LSA glider rating but the 10,000' limitation is still there.)

Is the 10,000 ft MSL limitation on LSA certified aircraft, the pilot
operating under LSA privileges, or both? Can I fly an LSA certified
glider over 10,000 ft if, I'm operating on my private glider pilot
privileges? Can I fly an LSA compliant aircraft with a standard type
certificate (say Piper Cub) over 10,000 ft MSL, if I'm operating on LSA
privileges?

It is my understanding that the 10,000 ft limitation is on the pilot, not
the aircraft. There are many old production aircraft that meet the LSA
criteria. (J-3 Cub, Taylor Craft, Champ, etc.)

Wayne
http://www.soaridaho.com/

In addition to being able to fly above 10,000 ft, motor gliders can also fly
internationally, which I believe is not currently possible with LSA
aircraft. In south Florida, if you are interested in flying to the Bahamas
(and possibly Cuba after Castro is gone), you are much better off with a
motor glider than an LSA aircraft. One HUGE advantage of the higher maximum
legal altitude, coupled with the better glide ration of a motor glider, is
that you can always be within final glide of land when flying from FL to the
Bahamas, whereas with an LSA aircraft, if you have an engine failure at an
inopportune moment, you are going to have to ditch.

Mike Schumann

"5Z" wrote in message
...
On Nov 20, 8:07 am, " wrote:
issued drivers license. Now here is the kicker. If you have had your
FAA physical denied or revoked for any reason you can not fly LSA
class but if you have let it laps without the revocation or denial and
can certify lyour health ike you do for a glider then have fun. The
LSA limitations are - briefly- max weight 1320 lbs, daylight only, max
two passenger, max speed 120 kts., max altitude 10,000' (yes there is
a LSA glider rating but the 10,000' limitation is still there.)

So if you don't think you can get a medical, but have a driver's
license, and feel fit to fly, and want to fly an "airplane", then the
touring motorglider is still the better deal. Something like a
Diamond Katana Extreme or Stemme S6 will let you fly higher, at night,
and possibly faster than you could in a light sport airplane.

Ain't regulations fun?! :-)



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

What about a full private pilot with a current medical, flying a pure LSA
aircraft that was not certified under the regular FAA aircraft rules (Flight
Design CT, Sparrowhawk, or similar)?

Mike Schumann

"Wayne Paul" wrote in message
...

"Marc Ramsey" wrote in message
...
wrote:
The
LSA limitations are - briefly- max weight 1320 lbs, daylight only, max
two passenger, max speed 120 kts., max altitude 10,000' (yes there is
a LSA glider rating but the 10,000' limitation is still there.)

Is the 10,000 ft MSL limitation on LSA certified aircraft, the pilot
operating under LSA privileges, or both? Can I fly an LSA certified
glider over 10,000 ft if, I'm operating on my private glider pilot
privileges? Can I fly an LSA compliant aircraft with a standard type
certificate (say Piper Cub) over 10,000 ft MSL, if I'm operating on LSA
privileges?

It is my understanding that the 10,000 ft limitation is on the pilot, not
the aircraft. There are many old production aircraft that meet the LSA
criteria. (J-3 Cub, Taylor Craft, Champ, etc.)

Wayne
http://www.soaridaho.com/




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Mike Schumann wrote:
In addition to being able to fly above 10,000 ft, motor gliders can also fly
internationally, which I believe is not currently possible with LSA
aircraft.

I believe that it's the license and not the aircraft. The Sport Pilot
license is not recognized internationally and will likely be unusable
outside the U.S. Similarly, we have a club member who has the Dutch
equivalent of a recreational pilot license. The FAA would not recognize
that either and the member would up getting a U.S. private Pilot license.

As for the 10,000 ft thing - that's because Sport Pilots are not tested
for high altitude operations. I have a page on my club web site (and so
excuse the local references, please) that may be of interest -
http://home.comcast.net/~verhulst/GB...sportpilot.htm

Tony