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Chinese new regional jet
Well, it has officially started.
China has rolled out a new jet that is a knockoff from an American passenger jet. From AvWeb: Shenyang used much of the tooling left over from McDonnell-Douglas's aborted attempt to build MD-90s in China and the "new" airplane has the same cabin cross section and nose as the DC-9 family. Does anyone have any doubt that China will copy any airplane that a manufacturer decides to build there? Cessna (and others) have screwed up, big time, IMHO. -- Jim in NC |
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Look that they do to electronics, cars, and motorcycles.
"Morgans" wrote in message ... Well, it has officially started. China has rolled out a new jet that is a knockoff from an American passenger jet. From AvWeb: Shenyang used much of the tooling left over from McDonnell-Douglas's aborted attempt to build MD-90s in China and the "new" airplane has the same cabin cross section and nose as the DC-9 family. Does anyone have any doubt that China will copy any airplane that a manufacturer decides to build there? Cessna (and others) have screwed up, big time, IMHO. -- Jim in NC |
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"Morgans" wrote in message ... Well, it has officially started. China has rolled out a new jet that is a knockoff from an American passenger jet. From AvWeb: Shenyang used much of the tooling left over from McDonnell-Douglas's aborted attempt to build MD-90s in China and the "new" airplane has the same cabin cross section and nose as the DC-9 family. Does anyone have any doubt that China will copy any airplane that a manufacturer decides to build there? Cessna (and others) have screwed up, big time, IMHO. -- Jim in NC Without a doubt, that culture doesn't respect the same business norms as most western businesses. That said, I think it'll be a long time before someone buys a knock-off airliner pushed by knock-off engines and guided by knock-off avionics. I just don't foresee a market for third rate aircraft. |
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In a previous article, "Kyle Boatright" said:
That said, I think it'll be a long time before someone buys a knock-off airliner pushed by knock-off engines and guided by knock-off avionics. I just don't foresee a market for third rate aircraft. The company I'm currently working for nearly got knocked out of the business because we were dumb enough to buy cheap Dell workstations that had power supplies that had a cheap Chinese knock-off of a Japanese designed capacitor that failed after a few months. Our customers really did not like having their critical machines going dead after a few months, and it was expensive as hell sending out hundreds of replacements. Finally, our parent company used their clout on Dell to make them pay for the cost of not only replacing the computers, but sending people out to the customer sites to replace them all. Dell's saving a few cents per computer cost them hundreds of dollars in replacement costs, and cost us untold millions in customer goodwill. -- Paul Tomblin http://blog.xcski.com/ "I kept the faith and I kept voting/Not for the iron fist but for the helping hand/For theirs is a land with a wall around it/And mine is a faith in my fellow man" --Billy Bragg |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:54:18 -0500, "Kyle Boatright"
wrote: That said, I think it'll be a long time before someone buys a knock-off airliner pushed by knock-off engines and guided by knock-off avionics. I just don't foresee a market for third rate aircraft. I've heard it's equipped with such brand name gear as Garvin Avionics and a choice of Gentleman Electric or Rolls Boyce engines... |
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"NW_Pilot" wrote in message ... Look that they do to electronics, cars, and motorcycles. ..............& nukes |
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"Morgans" wrote:
Well, it has officially started. China has rolled out a new jet that is a knockoff from an American passenger jet. From AvWeb: Shenyang used much of the tooling left over from McDonnell-Douglas's aborted attempt to build MD-90s in China and the "new" airplane has the same cabin cross section and nose as the DC-9 family. Does anyone have any doubt that China will copy any airplane that a manufacturer decides to build there? The story in question also states "According to United Press International, the aircraft is the first-ever clean sheet airliner design by the Chinese." Having the same cross section and nose as an entire family of aircraft is mighty thin evidence to start claiming "knockoff". Also, I'm pretty sure that U.S. corporations and governments have in decades past ripped off design ideas when it suited them. (Shucks, the U.S. sometimes doesn't just rip off designs but complete sets of designers! Got a bunch of German rocket designers a few decades back. And prior to that some airships and airship designs. Different wars, same result: transfer of IP.) |
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Kyle Boatright wrote:
"Morgans" wrote in message ... Well, it has officially started. China has rolled out a new jet that is a knockoff from an American passenger jet. From AvWeb: Shenyang used much of the tooling left over from McDonnell-Douglas's aborted attempt to build MD-90s in China and the "new" airplane has the same cabin cross section and nose as the DC-9 family. Does anyone have any doubt that China will copy any airplane that a manufacturer decides to build there? Cessna (and others) have screwed up, big time, IMHO. -- Jim in NC Without a doubt, that culture doesn't respect the same business norms as most western businesses. That said, I think it'll be a long time before someone buys a knock-off airliner pushed by knock-off engines and guided by knock-off avionics. I just don't foresee a market for third rate aircraft. Just the loss of the business in China, who I assume will but the planes, will hurt the companies that are ripped off. |
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On Dec 26, 5:54*pm, "Kyle Boatright" wrote:
"Morgans" wrote in message ... Well, it has officially started. China has rolled out a new jet that is a knockoff from an American passenger jet. From AvWeb: Shenyang used much of the tooling left over from McDonnell-Douglas's aborted attempt to build MD-90s in China and the "new" airplane has the same cabin cross section and nose as the DC-9 family. Does anyone have any doubt that China will copy any airplane that a manufacturer decides to build there? Cessna (and others) have screwed up, big time, IMHO. -- Jim in NC Without a doubt, that culture doesn't respect the same business norms as most western businesses. That said, I think it'll be a long time before someone buys a knock-off airliner pushed by knock-off engines and guided by knock-off avionics. *I just don't foresee a market for third rate aircraft.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The Chineese are over populated as it is. Perhaps their new airliner is the Chineese government's attempt at controlling their over population problem. |
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That said, I think it'll be a long time before someone buys a knock-off airliner pushed by knock-off engines and guided by knock-off avionics. I just don't foresee a market for third rate aircraft. If its certified and it costs half the price it will sell. If I remember correctly almost are whole trade with Japan is boeing. Airplanes are the only thing we still build. |
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