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Old June 7th 04, 07:34 AM
Kees Mies
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Hi all,

Since yesterday I'm a bit more confident about my piloting.
The two of us had planned a trip to an island on our north coast for
lunch.
Really looking forward to this because we had some bad weather for the
last several weeks.
So after fuelling, preflight etc. I pushed the throttle forward for
what we thought was going to be a nice day out.
Well, this was not going to happen.
Overhead the oppiste threshold I noticed that my airspeed was 45kts
and altitude 100ft, not the normal values.
Ok, I have to watch this.
10 seconds later still the same indications and no vsi either.
Ahah, a static port problem.
I mentioned to my passenger who is also a good friend that we are not
going have that lunch.
Oh, why is that?, she asks.
Well, we do not have this and that and this thing here is not working
either.
Uh, you explained that these things are important, now what?
We are going back, but do not panick as long as we keep flying there
is nothing to worry about.
So, I called the tower that we are coming back with the notion that I
do not have air speed or altitude indication.
About 5 minutes later we made a smooth landing exactly on the numbers.
Maybe a bit faster than usually and I felt the tyres touching the
runway instead of the normal feeling that we are rolling and not
flying anymore.

My passenger said that it was a nice landing all things considered and
that she was not scarred a moment just not completely at ease.

Now I know I can land my plane without instruments and I feel a lot
more safer knowing this.

Bye,
Kees

P.S. Now it is waiting for the bill from the maintenance guys.
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Old June 7th 04, 07:57 AM
MLenoch
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My passenger said that it was a nice landing all things considered and
that she was not scarred a moment just not completely at ease.


First date?
Sounds familiar.........she's my wife now!
VL
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Old June 7th 04, 02:36 PM
Alan Gerber
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Bob Moore wrote:
Each of my students received one full lesson in and out of the
traffic pattern with the entire instrument panel covered with a
piece of paper for the complete lesson. Of course, they had been
taught from the begining to rely on the tachometer and visual
attitude and not the airspeed indicator when landing.


This mean's you're *not* covering the tach, right? Just the basic
six-pack?

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Old June 7th 04, 03:04 PM
Dan Truesdell
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I had the late Mike Goulian (senior, that is) for my PPL checkride at
BED. Just before reaching abeam the numbers, he took out a sectional,
covered the entire panel, pulled the throttle, and said, "You just lost
everything. I've got the radios. Land the plane." Not a big deal as
the runway is something like 8000', but was sure an interesting experience.

A side note: Before entering the pattern, he told me that he wanted to
see a full-flap landing. On the turn to final, he "reminded" me that he
had requested a full-flap approach. (No flaps had been deployed.) I
reminded him that the 172 we were flying in had electric flaps, and if I
had, indeed, just lost everything, just how was I supposed to drop them?
A quick smile came across his face, and he responded with, "OK. You
still have a little battery left."

Bob Moore wrote:
(Kees Mies) wrote

Since yesterday I'm a bit more confident about my piloting.
Now I know I can land my plane without instruments and I feel a lot
more safer knowing this.



Each of my students received one full lesson in and out of the
traffic pattern with the entire instrument panel covered with a
piece of paper for the complete lesson. Of course, they had been
taught from the begining to rely on the tachometer and visual
attitude and not the airspeed indicator when landing.

Bob Moore



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Old June 7th 04, 05:45 PM
Bob Moore
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Alan Gerber wrote
Bob Moore wrote:
Each of my students received one full lesson in and out of the
traffic pattern with the entire instrument panel covered with a
piece of paper for the complete lesson. Of course, they had been
taught from the begining to rely on the tachometer and visual
attitude and not the airspeed indicator when landing.


This mean's you're *not* covering the tach, right? Just the basic
six-pack?


NO tach for that one training session....covered the whole panel.

Bob Moore

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Old June 7th 04, 06:30 PM
C J Campbell
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No alternate static?


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Old June 7th 04, 09:19 PM
BTIZ
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we do the same thing with our pre-solo glider students.. cover the airspeed
and altimeter at altitude and they have to get back to the runway with "what
looks and feels right"... most are high.. which is a good thing.. with
3500ft of runway.. and only needing 500ft stop... it works out

BT

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(Kees Mies) wrote

Since yesterday I'm a bit more confident about my piloting.
Now I know I can land my plane without instruments and I feel a lot
more safer knowing this.


Each of my students received one full lesson in and out of the
traffic pattern with the entire instrument panel covered with a
piece of paper for the complete lesson. Of course, they had been
taught from the begining to rely on the tachometer and visual
attitude and not the airspeed indicator when landing.

Bob Moore



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Old June 7th 04, 11:03 PM
Bob Gardner
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I find that after a few hours students can make power settings fairly
closely simply by listening to engine sounds...of course, headsets do not
help a darn bit.

Bob Gardner

"Alan Gerber" wrote in message
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Bob Moore wrote:
Each of my students received one full lesson in and out of the
traffic pattern with the entire instrument panel covered with a
piece of paper for the complete lesson. Of course, they had been
taught from the begining to rely on the tachometer and visual
attitude and not the airspeed indicator when landing.


This mean's you're *not* covering the tach, right? Just the basic
six-pack?

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gerber AT panix DOT com



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Old June 7th 04, 11:53 PM
Bob Moore
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"Bob Gardner" wrote

I find that after a few hours students can make power settings fairly
closely simply by listening to engine sounds...


.....and the throttle position. :-)

Bob Moore

 




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