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Old February 3rd 05, 01:53 AM
G. Sylvester
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I've been an AOPA member since I got my license about a little over a
year ago. Is it just me or do you also get sick of their incessant
'internal' advertising. It seems like you can't read one of their
headlines on their website or mags without it being preceeded by
"AOPA helps win....." On top of that, I feel like I get a mailed
letter to me advertising their insurance at least twice a month.

I realize they are very important for general aviation and that
is why I am a member. But they sure sound more like an
infomercial business than a lobbying group at times.

Gerald


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Old February 3rd 05, 10:25 PM
Larry Dighera
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On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 01:53:59 GMT, "G. Sylvester"
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On top of that, I feel like I get a mailed
letter to me advertising their insurance at least twice a month.


Wait until you start getting telephone solicitations. :-(


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Old February 4th 05, 12:42 AM
Jay Somerset
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On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 01:53:59 GMT, "G. Sylvester"
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I've been an AOPA member since I got my license about a little over a
year ago. Is it just me or do you also get sick of their incessant
'internal' advertising. It seems like you can't read one of their
headlines on their website or mags without it being preceeded by
"AOPA helps win....." On top of that, I feel like I get a mailed
letter to me advertising their insurance at least twice a month.

I realize they are very important for general aviation and that
is why I am a member. But they sure sound more like an
infomercial business than a lobbying group at times.

Gerald

Yup. Right up there with the "Fraternal Order of Police" but not as abusive
when you decline to contribute.
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Old February 4th 05, 01:01 AM
houstondan
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no bother to me. i want them to be as big and powerful as they can be .
if pushing that stuff helps 'em build the warchest then i'll survive
the irritation.

as far as claiming credit for what they do...do you really want a lobby
and advocacy group that's shy???

dan

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Old February 4th 05, 01:48 AM
Helen Woods
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Most non-profits can flag you in their data base not to receive internal
advertising. I suspect AOPA is the same so I'd recomend you give them a
call and ask them to do so.

As for their "propaganda e-newletter," you can unsubscribe to that. I
recomend subscribning to AvWeb's newsletter (www.avweb.com) instead.
They have extremely good reporting and it is impartial to the alphabet
groups.

Helen
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Old February 4th 05, 04:53 AM
Larry Dighera
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On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 20:48:16 -0500, Helen Woods
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I recomend subscribning to AvWeb's newsletter (www.avweb.com) instead.
They have extremely good reporting and it is impartial to the alphabet
groups.


Both AvWeb and AOPA e-publications contain considerable advertising
content. Fortunately they make it easily recognizable, so it's easy
to overlook if you choose.
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Old February 4th 05, 11:02 AM
Peter Duniho
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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Wait until you start getting telephone solicitations. :-(


Just tell them you don't want them to call. I did, and never heard anything
more from them on the phone. That was well before the whole "do-not-call
list" thing.

It's amazing what people will do if you just ask them nicely.

Pete


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Old February 4th 05, 01:50 PM
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But they sure sound more like an
infomercial business than a lobbying group at times.



Whatever the perceived shortcomings of AOPA are (and I don't stipulate to any
that you observe) they are a tremendous asset to GA, a powerful advocate of our
right to fly. If you don't want them calling, just tell them and they are
quite cordial about it.

They have a substantial staff that needs to be paid . . . dues have not risen
in years.
Solicitations for donations to the PAC, for in
www.Rosspilot.com


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Old February 4th 05, 05:36 PM
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They have a substantial staff that needs to be paid . . . dues have not risen
in years.
Solicitations for donations to the PAC, for insurance, etc, are efficient ways

to generate revenue. I do send them money from time to time, because you gotta
"put your money where your mouth is" sometime. Without AOPA's work, Washington
would be COMPLETELY closed off, along with plenty of other airspace. Aside
from their political activity on our behalf, they are a wealth of technical
help, highly responsive to member inquiries, and in my view, the BEST money I
spend in aviation.


www.Rosspilot.com


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Old February 4th 05, 09:58 PM
Blueskies
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"Rosspilot" wrote in message ...

They have a substantial staff that needs to be paid . . . dues have not risen
in years.
Solicitations for donations to the PAC, for insurance, etc, are efficient ways

to generate revenue. I do send them money from time to time, because you gotta
"put your money where your mouth is" sometime. Without AOPA's work, Washington
would be COMPLETELY closed off, along with plenty of other airspace. Aside
from their political activity on our behalf, they are a wealth of technical
help, highly responsive to member inquiries, and in my view, the BEST money I
spend in aviation.


www.Rosspilot.com



I don't understand the article about "How low do they go?" in the January 05 AOPA pilot. According to the article the
pilot was flying at 1000' in the Farmville MOA, but according to the chart with the article, the "MOA EXCLUDES AIRSPACE
AT AND BELOW 1500' AGL." Then the article goes on the criticize a GA Cessna that is spotted flying in their area. There
was no mention of the height of the Cessna.

While I get it that the fighter jocks have to have a place to train, what was the point of this article? MOAs are joint
use airspace with see and avoid rules in effect (VFR of course). It sounds like the AOPA is recommending ceding this
airspace whenever the hot rods are flying....


 




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