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Jumbo Tanker Accident
Anyone have any photos of the damage?
According to a report on NPR Thursday morning, as the aircraft was crossing a ridge approaching its drop point, the left wing did an uncommanded downward roll and struck trees, resulting in damage to the wing. The report stated that the aircraft would normally be several hundred feet above the terrain, and no explaination as to why it was flying lower than normal was given. Immediately following the contact, power was added and the aircraft climbed and made flew to on to make the emergency landing described below. DC-10 tanker makes emergency landing at SÇLA (Tanker 910) Victorville Daily Press ^ | 6/25/07 | TATIANA PROPHET Posted on 06/26/2007 12:05:20 PM PDT by BurbankKarl A DC-10 firetanker that was fighting the White Fire near Tehachapi hit the treeline and recovered from severe turbulence, then made an emergency landing at its home base of Southern California Logistics Airport on Monday evening. The wide-body jet, the first of its kind built to fight fires and the only one in operation, performed two drops where it did an ³awesome job² on the fire, which was 9,100 acres Monday night, said Sean Dakin, fire information officer for state agency CAL FIRE. With a 12,000-gallon capacity, it carries 10 times the amount of water or fire retardant as a standard S2T firefighting prop plane and has performed effectively on large-scale wildland fires, CAL FIRE officials have said. On Monday, after helping out the 800 firefighters on the ground, the tanker started to have trouble near Bison Peak, south of Tehachapi, said Janet Upton of CAL FIRE. ³It encountered severe turbulence, which caused the aircraft to descend and strike several trees,² she said. ³The flight crew was able to apply power and fly out of the turbulence, and they safely returned to their base at Victorville.² Fire officials were standing by after the plane landed safely at SCLA at about 5:45 p.m. There were no injuries to the crew or anyone on the ground, Upton said. The incident is under investigation, she added, which will include a complete structural examination of the aircraft. A CAL FIRE team will be arriving today to look at the tanker, and the plane will be grounded until the investigation is completed, she said. Rick Hatton, a partner with the planeıs co-developer, San Carlos-based Cargo Conversions LLC, told the Daily Press earlier in the day about the tankerıs activities on the White Fire. After the emergency landing, Hatton did not want to comment. ³I have no information at this time,² he said. The terrain at the White Fire is highly difficult to access, Dakin said. ³Itıs a tough place to be, very steep,² he said. About 50 structures were threatened, Dakin added, with some damaged but no information yet available. A team will be going in today to assess damage. CAL FIRE recently hired the tanker exclusively for the next three years, at about $5 million per year making the plane available for 122 days from June to October. It has not yet been certified by the U.S. Forest Service, so on Forest Service lands, such as the site of the Angora Fire at Lake Tahoe, it is not authorized to fight fires. http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=509666 |
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P-51 incident??
An old friend sent me a photo of a P-51 upside down next to the runway at
Camarillo Airport in California. I guess it happened within the last couple of days or so. Does anyone have an update on this? Paul Anton N1431A KPLU |
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P-51 incident??
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:18:43 -0700, "Tri-Pacer"
wrote: An old friend sent me a photo of a P-51 upside down next to the runway at Camarillo Airport in California. I guess it happened within the last couple of days or so. Does anyone have an update on this? Paul Anton N1431A KPLU Via ANN: New Pilot Lost InTakeoff And Landing Drills ANN REALTIME UPDATE 07.16.07 1720 EDT: Officials have released the name of the pilot of a P-51D Mustang who died in a Sunday morning accident at Camarillo Airport. John McKittrick, 42, was on his first solo flight in the airplane when it crashed at 0815 PDT Sunday morning. It is unclear whether the flight was McKittrick's first-ever solo. Eyewitnesses tell ANN the accident occurred during the first landing attempt, when the aircraft began porposing on landing, and the pilot tried to stop the plane before running off the runway. FAA spokesman Mike Fergus told the Fresno Bee the McKittrick's flight instructor "told the tower that the student pilot was going to make patterns" before the accident. The accident occurred Sunday morning at 0820 local time. IDENTIFICATION Regis#: 51TK Make/Model: P51 Description: P-51, F-51, A-36 Mustang Date: 07/15/2007 Time: 1505 Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Fatal Mid Air: N Missing: N Damage: Substantial LOCATION City: CAMARILLO State: CA Country: US DESCRIPTION AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, CRASHED AND CAME TO REST INVERTED, THE ONE PERSON ON BOARD WAS FATALLY INJURED, CAMARILLO, CA INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 1 # Crew: 1 Fat: 1 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: WEATHER: NOT REPORTED OTHER DATA Activity: Training Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER FAA FSDO: VAN NUYS, CA (WP01) Entry date: 07/16/2007 Don |
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P-51 incident??
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:18:43 -0700, "Tri-Pacer"
wrote in : An old friend sent me a photo of a P-51 upside down next to the runway at Camarillo Airport in California. I guess it happened within the last couple of days or so. Does anyone have an update on this? http://www.dailynews.com/ci_6382818?source=rss http://www.faa.gov/data_statistics/a...ia/02_51TK.txt ************************************************** ****************************** ** Report created 7/16/2007 Record 2 ** ************************************************** ****************************** IDENTIFICATION Regis#: 51TK Make/Model: P51 Description: P-51, F-51, A-36 Mustang Date: 07/15/2007 Time: 1505 Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Fatal Mid Air: N Missing: N Damage: Substantial LOCATION City: CAMARILLO State: CA Country: US DESCRIPTION AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, CRASHED AND CAME TO REST INVERTED, THE ONE PERSON ON BOARD WAS FATALLY INJURED, CAMARILLO, CA INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 1 # Crew: 1 Fat: 1 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: WEATHER: NOT REPORTED OTHER DATA Activity: Training Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER FAA FSDO: VAN NUYS, CA (WP01) Entry date: 07/16/2007 http://www.venturacountystar.com/new...rilloaircrash/ Man killed in air crash at Camarillo Airport By Jenni Mintz (Contact) Originally published 06:42 p.m., July 15, 2007 Updated 06:42 p.m., July 15, 2007 Pilot killed in Sunday crash identified During his first solo flight, a 42-year-old Thousand Oaks resident was killed Sunday morning after crashing a privately-owned, Mustang Vintage P-51 WWII aircraft at the Camarillo Airport on the south end of the runway. A call was made to the dispatcher about 8:15 a.m., and about 30 emergency personnel responded, including airport operations, the sheriff and coroner, said Mark Taillon, Ventura County Fire Department captain. The man was pronounced dead at 8:35 a.m. Witnesses say the man appeared to be practicing taking off and landing, Taillon said. He took off from the runway headed west when the plane crashed into fields adjacent to the runway, according to the Ventura County Fire Department. At the family's request, the victim's name will not be made public until Monday, because he had extensive family in the area that should be notified first. All that could be released about the man's identity Sunday is that he's a local resident, Taillon said. Staff writer Lisa McKinnon contributed to this report. |
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P-51 incident??
It is unclear whether the
flight was McKittrick's first-ever solo. If this pilot was really on his first solo flight EVER, I'm going to get in line to sue the flight instructor. Anyone who would put one of the last Mustangs at risk by training a student pilot in one deserves to be shot, I don't care how rich the student is. If, however, (as I suspect) the crash victim was already an experienced pilot, it's merely another tragic accident. What a shame, both for the family and for all of us who hope to be able to see (and hear!) Mustangs forever. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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P-51 incident??
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:37:10 -0700, Jay Honeck
wrote in .com: If this pilot was really on his first solo flight EVER, JOHN MITCHELL MCKITTRICK Address Street XXXXX County VENTURA Zip Code 91361-5082 Country USA Medical Medical Class: Third Medical Date: 4/2006 Certificates 1 of 1 DOI: 6/18/2005 Certificate: PRIVATE PILOT Rating(s): PRIVATE PILOT AIRPLANE SINGLE ENGINE LAND AIRPLANE MULTIENGINE LAND INSTRUMENT AIRPLANE |
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P-51 incident??
First. Read Don's posting close. He was checking out in the '51 and this was his first flight in it. From the statement that he proporsed, I suggest he was trying to make a wheel landing. Two of the sister Squadron in my Fighter Group made wheel landings and they had a number of botched landings trying to wheel it on. Several ended up going in inverted due to trying to go around with full power and couldn't control the torque. If you tried to 'stick' it on with forward pressure of stick you also ran into the possibility of hitting the prop. Once you bounced it was take it around or you would porpose. My Squadron always made three point landings and we had a lesser landing accident rate then the other two Squadrons combined. I made a few wheel landings and it took much more technique to get the bird down in one piece. I, of course, send condolences to the family and friends. Big John ******************************************* On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:30:16 -0700, Don Tuite wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:18:43 -0700, "Tri-Pacer" wrote: An old friend sent me a photo of a P-51 upside down next to the runway at Camarillo Airport in California. I guess it happened within the last couple of days or so. Does anyone have an update on this? Paul Anton N1431A KPLU Via ANN: New Pilot Lost InTakeoff And Landing Drills ANN REALTIME UPDATE 07.16.07 1720 EDT: Officials have released the name of the pilot of a P-51D Mustang who died in a Sunday morning accident at Camarillo Airport. John McKittrick, 42, was on his first solo flight in the airplane when it crashed at 0815 PDT Sunday morning. It is unclear whether the flight was McKittrick's first-ever solo. Eyewitnesses tell ANN the accident occurred during the first landing attempt, when the aircraft began porposing on landing, and the pilot tried to stop the plane before running off the runway. FAA spokesman Mike Fergus told the Fresno Bee the McKittrick's flight instructor "told the tower that the student pilot was going to make patterns" before the accident. The accident occurred Sunday morning at 0820 local time. IDENTIFICATION Regis#: 51TK Make/Model: P51 Description: P-51, F-51, A-36 Mustang Date: 07/15/2007 Time: 1505 Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Fatal Mid Air: N Missing: N Damage: Substantial LOCATION City: CAMARILLO State: CA Country: US DESCRIPTION AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, CRASHED AND CAME TO REST INVERTED, THE ONE PERSON ON BOARD WAS FATALLY INJURED, CAMARILLO, CA INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 1 # Crew: 1 Fat: 1 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: WEATHER: NOT REPORTED OTHER DATA Activity: Training Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER FAA FSDO: VAN NUYS, CA (WP01) Entry date: 07/16/2007 Don |
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P-51 incident??
Jay Honeck wrote:
It is unclear whether the flight was McKittrick's first-ever solo. If this pilot was really on his first solo flight EVER, I'm going to get in line to sue the flight instructor. Anyone who would put one of the last Mustangs at risk by training a student pilot in one deserves to be shot, I don't care how rich the student is. If, however, (as I suspect) the crash victim was already an experienced pilot, it's merely another tragic accident. What a shame, both for the family and for all of us who hope to be able to see (and hear!) Mustangs forever. I'll bet it was first solo IN THE AIRCRAFT. There are two John Mckittricks in the database one is a controller the other is a PP SEL,MEL and Inst. |
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P-51 incident??
"Don Tuite" wrote in message news On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:18:43 -0700, "Tri-Pacer" wrote: An old friend sent me a photo of a P-51 upside down next to the runway at Camarillo Airport in California. I guess it happened within the last couple of days or so. That's not the one that's in One Six Right is it? -c |
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P-51 incident??
"Larry Dighera" wrote in message ... DOI: 6/18/2005 Certificate: PRIVATE PILOT That's pushing it for a Mustang, isn't it? Licensed in 2005? Rating(s): PRIVATE PILOT AIRPLANE SINGLE ENGINE LAND AIRPLANE MULTIENGINE LAND INSTRUMENT AIRPLANE |
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