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IFR from OXC to PHL
Anybody know what I can expect as a clearance for a flight from OXC to
PHL? How about the return? |
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Going out you may very well get cleared as filed. Coming back you can
count on Allentown, then north up to the Kingston VOR, then perhaps Carmel and Bridgeport. wrote: Anybody know what I can expect as a clearance for a flight from OXC to PHL? How about the return? |
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Anybody know what I can expect as a clearance for a flight from OXC to PHL? How about the return? A ground delay of 45 minutes to an hour, probably. Based on my personal experiences as both a pilot of my GA aircraft and as a passenger through USAirways' new major hub, I have learned to avoid Philadelphia International at all costs. Any reason you can't go to Wings (KLOM) or Northeast Philly (KNPE) instead? I don't have any advice about the actual route, but if you have to go to PHL and you receive a long ground hold, change your destination with clearance to one of the above airports. When you are about 40 nm out, ask approach if you can change your destination to PHL. I didn't do this and consequently I sat at Logan airport for almost 90 minutes this past summer. A flight instructor I know was also going to PHL that day. He used this strategy and was able to depart his originating airport and get right in to PHL. -- Peter |
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Peter R. wrote:
) wrote: Anybody know what I can expect as a clearance for a flight from OXC to PHL? How about the return? A ground delay of 45 minutes to an hour, probably. Based on my personal experiences as both a pilot of my GA aircraft and as a passenger through USAirways' new major hub, I have learned to avoid Philadelphia International at all costs. I'll admit I haven't flown into PHL since 9/11 so maybe things are different, but I flew in there several times in the late 90s and had very good experiences. They mixed me in with no delay on both arrival and depature. Matt |
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Matt Whiting wrote:
Peter R. wrote: ) wrote: Anybody know what I can expect as a clearance for a flight from OXC to PHL? How about the return? A ground delay of 45 minutes to an hour, probably. Based on my personal experiences as both a pilot of my GA aircraft and as a passenger through USAirways' new major hub, I have learned to avoid Philadelphia International at all costs. I'll admit I haven't flown into PHL since 9/11 so maybe things are different, but I flew in there several times in the late 90s and had very good experiences. They mixed me in with no delay on both arrival and depature. I just pulled up the PHL airport diagram and it looks like they've changed a lot since I was there last. My recollection is the Atlantic Aviation was located west of 17/35 which is the runway that I believe I was always given. It looks like terminal F displaced the FBO to a location east of 17/35 and it appears that there is an entirely new runway near the FBO now. At least I don't remember it being there last time I flew in, which was probably 1999 or early 2000. Matt |
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Matt Whiting ) wrote:
I'll admit I haven't flown into PHL since 9/11 so maybe things are different, but I flew in there several times in the late 90s and had very good experiences. They mixed me in with no delay on both arrival and depature. I think the head-aches at Philly are caused by USAirways restructuring their routes and de-emphasizing their hub at Pittsburgh. Because of this, they seem to be adding more flights into and out of Philly. There also seems to be a serious morale issue there. On my last commercial flight through PHL, we literally waited at the gate in our incoming ERJ for fifteen minutes while someone was located to operate the jetway. -- Peter |
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wrote in message om... Anybody know what I can expect as a clearance for a flight from OXC to PHL? How about the return? You know what I do? If I don't know what route I'll get and I want to know ahead of time so I can make an advanced flight plan: I file an IFR flight plan that I want and then phone in a few minutes later to get my clearance. After I read it back I just say, "Oh wait...I'm just getting word the flight is cancelled. I'm sorry please cancel my flight plan and take it out of the system." Kobra |
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well, you could look at the TEC roiute for a clue.
Or you could call the OXC tower and ask what the normal clearance is to PHL. I'm sure they would oblige. On 26 Oct 2004 06:21:05 -0700, wrote: Anybody know what I can expect as a clearance for a flight from OXC to PHL? How about the return? |
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