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I have a question that I am curious about having stumped several CFIs
locally. I'm flying from my home base, St. Cloud, Minnesota, to St. Paul Downtown Airport. Pull out your Twin Cities sectional if you have one... Along the way my son and I are going to do some sightseeing over the State Fairgrounds. The MSP class B airspace is 100/70, 100/40, 100/30, 100/23, and 100/SFC. The fairgrounds are just outside the inner surface ring. The terrain is around 1000 ft MSL and some significant towers in the area also. I would rather stay at 2500 which would place me inside Bravo of the 100/23 ring over the Fairgrounds. Complicating matters are two class D areas, virtually touching, at [34] between St. Cloud and the Fairgrounds. So I am VFR, flying to the southeast at 5500, I speak to approach and ask for direct to the Fairgrounds for sightseeing with clearance to enter class B. That is denied but I am advised to continue, maintain 3000. As I get close to the class D at [34], but still under the 100/40 shelf pf course, I point out that I will need to speak to Anoka Class D to traverse their airspace unless Approach can get me clearance. They told me to maintain 3000 "and you'll be OK". By this I assume they meant "no traffic in the class D area at that altitude" but I was unsure. Having faith they were not out to get me, I complied and remained at 3000, bored through the upper reaches of Anoka's Class D. I was next to enter the 100/30 ring at 3000. I have always understood that 100/30 means inclusive so I advised approach I would either need lower or a clearance to enter Bravo. I was told "Stay at 3000 and you'll be OK." No "cleared to enter Bravo" magic words, so I said "how about 2800 to remain clear of Bravo?" and clearance for this was granted. Next I was to enter the 100/23 ring so I advised approach "In order to maintain terrain and obstacle clearance, I'll between 2500 and 2800 and clearance to enter class Bravo over the Fairgrounds". I was switched to the tower frequency and given clearance to enter Bravo and advised to stay northeast of the active runways, and after a few circles, on to STP. So all's well that ends well, but: 1. Can Approach grant clearance to go thru intervening class D when VFR? I am accustomed to this as a matter of routine when IFR but I do not know about VFR. 2. Why was I given in effect "permission", but no clearance, to enter class Bravo at 3000, therefore permission to bust class Bravo and potentially get cited? Is it conceivable that a controller would be so sadistic as to send a place through Bravo without clearance and then bust them? 3. Is there a better way for this trip that you can think of? For instance, is it reasonable to file IFR and then, along the way, spring a request to circle the area of interest, under the implied clearance to be in Bravo and Class D afforded by the IFR flight plan? Mitchell St. Cloud, Minnesota |
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