Funny Scammer

I just received the following email in response to an ad I posted on R.A.M.:

From: Elle Walken ]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 10:14 AM
To: Steve Foley
Subject: Payment Schedule 1966 Piper Cherokee 140 $27,000

Thanks for your mail,

I really apreciate your swift response and am peased with your asking
price and also with the present condition..However,concerning the payment
and shipping arrangment..i will like to deposit a sum of $5000 via a
certified check drwan united state..

As soon as you confirm the receipt of my payment receive i will instruct my
reputable shipping agent to come over to your place for the inspection of
the car .. when he's coming we will bring the remaing funds in cash or
certified check to balance your sale price..So,i will urge you to mail me
back with all the necessary information below in order for me to issue out
the deposit such as :-

Full Name :-
Full contact Address :-
All contact Number's :-

I will be glad to hear back from you with all the necessary details i asked
from you.

Regards,


I'd be curious to see who shows up for the 'inspection of the car'.

In a previous article, "Steve Foley" said:
I just received the following email in response to an ad I posted on R.A.M.:
and shipping arrangment..i will like to deposit a sum of $5000 via a
certified check drwan united state..

I'd be curious to see who shows up for the 'inspection of the car'.

They won't. They'll email you to say that they decided not to go ahead,
and please refund the deposit. It will all be carefully timed so that
your bank won't discover that the certified check is a fake until you've
sent these people back a non-fake $5,000.


--
Paul Tomblin http://blog.xcski.com/
"God be between you and harm, in all the empty places that you must walk"

"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
...
In a previous article, "Steve Foley" said:
I just received the following email in response to an ad I posted on
R.A.M.:
and shipping arrangment..i will like to deposit a sum of $5000 via a
certified check drwan united state..

I'd be curious to see who shows up for the 'inspection of the car'.

They won't. They'll email you to say that they decided not to go ahead,
and please refund the deposit. It will all be carefully timed so that
your bank won't discover that the certified check is a fake until you've
sent these people back a non-fake $5,000.

Interesting twist.

They said (or tried to - spelling was bad) that the check would be drawn on
a US bank. Is the check completely bogus, or do they use someone else's
account number on it?

In any event, if I were stupid enough to fall for this, I would not be
refunding a deposit. What is the point of accepting a deposit if you're just
going to give it back?

"Steve Foley" wrote in message
...
"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
...
In a previous article, "Steve Foley" said:
I just received the following email in response to an ad I posted on
R.A.M.:
and shipping arrangment..i will like to deposit a sum of $5000 via a
certified check drwan united state..

I'd be curious to see who shows up for the 'inspection of the car'.

They won't. They'll email you to say that they decided not to go ahead,
and please refund the deposit. It will all be carefully timed so that
your bank won't discover that the certified check is a fake until you've
sent these people back a non-fake $5,000.

Interesting twist.

They said (or tried to - spelling was bad) that the check would be drawn
on a US bank. Is the check completely bogus, or do they use someone else's
account number on it?

In any event, if I were stupid enough to fall for this, I would not be
refunding a deposit. What is the point of accepting a deposit if you're
just going to give it back?

The other variant of the scam is to "overpay" for the goods. They ask you to
refund the overpayment in cash and take the goods and cash. It is
restricted to a couple of hundred $$ but its mounts up. They then sell the
goods to someone else and clean up.

http://www.used-car-advisor.com/car-buyer-scam.htm

Another more deadly twist on this happened to a customer at our local bank.
In addition to sending the "excess funds" to the scammer, the seller was
talked into signing the title and mailing it to the scammer so he could have
his "associate insure the car while it was in storage at the original owners
location as the car would be picked up at a later date". Then the scammer
used the car title to obtain a title loan from a title loan company which he
defaulted on, turning the title of the car over to the bank for
repossession. The bank would then have to collect the car from "storage" at
the original owners location.

The owner lost the car plus the excess money that she sent the scammer.
Since then this scam has been listed on the websites of several states
attorneys general.

Jim

"Steve Foley" wrote in message
...
"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
...
In a previous article, "Steve Foley" said:
I just received the following email in response to an ad I posted on
R.A.M.:
and shipping arrangment..i will like to deposit a sum of $5000 via a
certified check drwan united state..

I'd be curious to see who shows up for the 'inspection of the car'.

They won't. They'll email you to say that they decided not to go ahead,
and please refund the deposit. It will all be carefully timed so that
your bank won't discover that the certified check is a fake until you've
sent these people back a non-fake $5,000.

Interesting twist.

They said (or tried to - spelling was bad) that the check would be drawn
on
a US bank. Is the check completely bogus, or do they use someone else's
account number on it?

In any event, if I were stupid enough to fall for this, I would not be
refunding a deposit. What is the point of accepting a deposit if you're
just
going to give it back?

"Jim Burns" wrote in message
...
http://www.used-car-advisor.com/car-buyer-scam.htm

Another more deadly twist on this happened to a customer at our local
bank.
In addition to sending the "excess funds" to the scammer, the seller was
talked into signing the title and mailing it to the scammer so he could
have
his "associate insure the car while it was in storage at the original
owners
location as the car would be picked up at a later date". Then the scammer
used the car title to obtain a title loan from a title loan company which
he
defaulted on, turning the title of the car over to the bank for
repossession. The bank would then have to collect the car from "storage"
at
the original owners location.

The owner lost the car plus the excess money that she sent the scammer.
Since then this scam has been listed on the websites of several states
attorneys general.

Jim

Interestingly enough, as common as this scam is, and as easy to track,
there's but a handful of prosecutions each year in the US.

Interestingly enough, as common as this scam is, and as easy to track,
there's but a handful of prosecutions each year in the US.
I got such a bite when I was selling a transponder. As soon as I got an
e-mail saying a mistake had been made and a check had been issued for
thousands more than the selling price I told them to bug off. They persisted
and sent a very real looking money order. My bank issues this brand of money
order, so I took the phony money order and copies of all e-mail
correspondence to my bank. The manager could not tell the money order from
real. As far as I know the bank made no follow-up with the police.

Cheers:

Paul
N1431A
KPLU

Matt Barrow wrote:

Interestingly enough, as common as this scam is, and as easy to track,
there's but a handful of prosecutions each year in the US.

I had my debit card number stolen from a vendor employee in Disneyland and my
checking account emptied of $2800 for,

get this.....

Wal-Mart and Target gift cards.

The scumbags ordered 'em online in the span of 90 min. ( I know 'cuz the
detectives working on this were quite informative).
The thing is, the local law enforcement were able to track down where the
likely scum were by tracing several PO boxes and fake box owners to a final
resident in Duarte, CA.

LA County Sherriffs said they simply had little time to execute and arrest in
these cases. Bigger fish to fry, basically.
Really didn't matter. My bank covered the losses but goes to show ya how ID
theft prosecution goes.

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"Steve Foley" wrote:

I just received the following email in response to an ad I posted on R.A.M.:

From: Elle Walken ]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 10:14 AM
To: Steve Foley
Subject: Payment Schedule 1966 Piper Cherokee 140 $27,000

Thanks for your mail,

I really apreciate your swift response and am peased with your asking
price and also with the present condition..However,concerning the payment
and shipping arrangment..i will like to deposit a sum of $5000 via a
certified check drwan united state..

As soon as you confirm the receipt of my payment receive i will instruct my
reputable shipping agent to come over to your place for the inspection of
the car .. when he's coming we will bring the remaing funds in cash or
certified check to balance your sale price..So,i will urge you to mail me
back with all the necessary information below in order for me to issue out
the deposit such as :-

Full Name :-
Full contact Address :-
All contact Number's :-

I will be glad to hear back from you with all the necessary details i asked
from you.

Regards,

I'd be curious to see who shows up for the 'inspection of the car'.

Those spammer/scammers are present on all the for-sale groups. I got the
same email, almost verbatim, after posting a couple of different ads on
Craig's List, and daughter in another state said she got the same
response too ... all saying "hey no problem with the price, but send me
all your pertinent info so I can issue you a certified check." Yeah,
right!

Cool,... just tell them to make it out to "CASH" and give em a PO Box.

"Steve Foley" wrote ...
I just received the following email in response to an ad I posted on
R.A.M.:

..i will like to deposit a sum of $5000 via a certified check drwan united
state..