Al-Qaida targeted Western forests, memo says

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...tterror11.html

"I thought about it a lot after 9/11," said Don Riddle, the law
enforcement officer for the Manti-LaSal National Forest in Utah. "How
hard would it be for someone to get in a small plane and fly over a
forest dropping fusees (flares) or firing off a flare gun as they flew
over?"

"Mutts" wrote in message ...
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...tterror11.html

"I thought about it a lot after 9/11," said Don Riddle, the law
enforcement officer for the Manti-LaSal National Forest in Utah. "How
hard would it be for someone to get in a small plane and fly over a
forest dropping fusees (flares) or firing off a flare gun as they flew
over?"
About as easy as it would be to drive through throwing them out the window.

In article , "Ron
Natalie" wrote:

"I thought about it a lot after 9/11," said Don Riddle, the law
enforcement officer for the Manti-LaSal National Forest in Utah. "How
hard would it be for someone to get in a small plane and fly over a
forest dropping fusees (flares) or firing off a flare gun as they flew
over?"
About as easy as it would be to drive through throwing them out the
window.

but guess which threat will receive the most press. :-(

(actually, a drive-through would be easier).

--
Bob Noel

I forget the news story I saw it in, but some official was quoted as saying
dropping from a plane could reach very inaccessible areas, giving the fires
more time to get going before firefighters arrived. The story also
mentioned the preferred plan ended up being to leave time-delay incendiary
devices hidden deep in the woods which were carried in by person.


"Bob Noel" wrote in message
...
In article , "Ron
Natalie" wrote:

"I thought about it a lot after 9/11," said Don Riddle, the law
enforcement officer for the Manti-LaSal National Forest in Utah. "How
hard would it be for someone to get in a small plane and fly over a
forest dropping fusees (flares) or firing off a flare gun as they flew
over?"
About as easy as it would be to drive through throwing them out the
window.

but guess which threat will receive the most press. :-(

(actually, a drive-through would be easier).

--
Bob Noel

"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message et...
I forget the news story I saw it in, but some official was quoted as saying
dropping from a plane could reach very inaccessible areas, giving the fires
more time to get going before firefighters arrived. The story also
mentioned the preferred plan ended up being to leave time-delay incendiary
devices hidden deep in the woods which were carried in by person.

Allows you to place it where it might actually get a fire started. Dropping
them out of planes is sort of random.

Drop an incendiary device anywhere in a western forest at this time of
year and it will start a fire.

Ron Natalie wrote:
"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message et...

I forget the news story I saw it in, but some official was quoted as saying
dropping from a plane could reach very inaccessible areas, giving the fires
more time to get going before firefighters arrived. The story also
mentioned the preferred plan ended up being to leave time-delay incendiary
devices hidden deep in the woods which were carried in by person.


Allows you to place it where it might actually get a fire started. Dropping
them out of planes is sort of random.

What I find to be the most interesting part is how the actual terrorists
talk about going in on foot yet the threat our government worries about is
completely different.

I guess they figure they can't stop people walking in so they talk about the
threat from the air.


"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...

"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
et...
I forget the news story I saw it in, but some official was quoted as
saying
dropping from a plane could reach very inaccessible areas, giving the
fires
more time to get going before firefighters arrived. The story also
mentioned the preferred plan ended up being to leave time-delay
incendiary
devices hidden deep in the woods which were carried in by person.

Allows you to place it where it might actually get a fire started.
Dropping
them out of planes is sort of random.

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 23:24:18 GMT, Bob Noel
wrote in Message-Id:
:

In article , "Ron
Natalie" wrote:

"I thought about it a lot after 9/11," said Don Riddle, the law
enforcement officer for the Manti-LaSal National Forest in Utah. "How
hard would it be for someone to get in a small plane and fly over a
forest dropping fusees (flares) or firing off a flare gun as they flew
over?"
About as easy as it would be to drive through throwing them out the
window.

but guess which threat will receive the most press. :-(

(actually, a drive-through would be easier).


Here's a little incident that should interest US airmen of Arab
descent:


http://tinylink.com/?82VaTW15ZV
FBI Apologizes For Detaining Indiana Muslims
Eight Men Detained After Sept. 11, 2001
The Indy Channel - April 24, 2003

EVANSVILLE, Ind. -- The head of the FBI in Indiana publicly
apologized for the detention of eight Egyptian men from
Evansville, who were held as part of a terrorism investigation
just weeks after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

Saying the secretive detentions came at a time of unprecedented
fear in the nation, FBI Special Agent Thomas V. Fuentes
acknowledged Wednesday that the detention caused the men and their
families distress and humiliation long after the government
cleared them of suspicion.

"The situation that happened to you was horrible," Fuentes told
former detainee Tarek Albasti during a meeting at the Islamic
Center of Evansville. "On behalf of the FBI, I will apologize."

Fuentes, in front of a crowd of about 100 local Muslims, also said
he would push through paperwork that would formally clear Albasti,
an Evansville restaurant owner, and the seven other men detained
for a week with him by federal terrorism investigators in October
2001. Details



Tonight's TV news report indicated, that Tarek Albasti (a naturalized
American of Arab descent, apparently married to a non Arab, and
raising a family) received flying lessons as a gift from his
father-in-law, a pilot. He was held by the government without benefit
of council nor being charged with a crime for days (as a material
witness). Being of Arab descent and taking flight instruction was all
the FBI needed to violate the former Constitutional rights of this
American airman.

We Airmen are now targets for arrest as a result of the 9/11/2001 acts
of 19 terrorists. Given the gestapo mentality unleashed by baby Bush,
it has me wondering who will be next?



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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 23:24:18 GMT, Bob Noel
wrote in Message-Id:
:

In article , "Ron
Natalie" wrote:

"I thought about it a lot after 9/11," said Don Riddle, the law
enforcement officer for the Manti-LaSal National Forest in Utah. "How
hard would it be for someone to get in a small plane and fly over a
forest dropping fusees (flares) or firing off a flare gun as they
flew
over?"
About as easy as it would be to drive through throwing them out the
window.

but guess which threat will receive the most press. :-(

(actually, a drive-through would be easier).


Here's a little incident that should interest US airmen of Arab
descent:


http://tinylink.com/?82VaTW15ZV
FBI Apologizes For Detaining Indiana Muslims
Eight Men Detained After Sept. 11, 2001
The Indy Channel - April 24, 2003

EVANSVILLE, Ind. -- The head of the FBI in Indiana publicly
apologized for the detention of eight Egyptian men from
Evansville, who were held as part of a terrorism investigation
just weeks after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

Saying the secretive detentions came at a time of unprecedented
fear in the nation, FBI Special Agent Thomas V. Fuentes
acknowledged Wednesday that the detention caused the men and their
families distress and humiliation long after the government
cleared them of suspicion.

"The situation that happened to you was horrible," Fuentes told
former detainee Tarek Albasti during a meeting at the Islamic
Center of Evansville. "On behalf of the FBI, I will apologize."

Fuentes, in front of a crowd of about 100 local Muslims, also said
he would push through paperwork that would formally clear Albasti,
an Evansville restaurant owner, and the seven other men detained
for a week with him by federal terrorism investigators in October
2001. Details



Tonight's TV news report indicated, that Tarek Albasti (a naturalized
American of Arab descent, apparently married to a non Arab, and
raising a family) received flying lessons as a gift from his
father-in-law, a pilot. He was held by the government without benefit
of council nor being charged with a crime for days (as a material
witness). Being of Arab descent and taking flight instruction was all
the FBI needed to violate the former Constitutional rights of this
American airman.

We Airmen are now targets for arrest as a result of the 9/11/2001 acts
of 19 terrorists. Given the gestapo mentality unleashed by baby Bush,
it has me wondering who will be next?



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What is astounding was the blatant presence in the mid 90's of so many
overtly militant Arabs at flight schools here in central Texas.
We used to joke we were training our own hijackers; Nobody noticed.
I take that back. In Arizona I think it was, one FBI type noticed and was
ignored.
The feds did not recently get smarter, either.
H.
N502TB

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 14:44:17 -0700, Mutts wrote:

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...tterror11.html

"I thought about it a lot after 9/11," said Don Riddle, the law
enforcement officer for the Manti-LaSal National Forest in Utah. "How
hard would it be for someone to get in a small plane and fly over a
forest dropping fusees (flares) or firing off a flare gun as they flew
over?"

A lot harder than committing arson from a ground vehicle or even on
foot.