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In article , Anthony wrote:
Now for a Brit joke. Why do Brits drink warm beer? Lucas refrigerators. Seriously, it's because the beer actually tastes of something (all you get with ice cold lager is the taste of the CO2 and alcohol and not much else). Real ales have very varied and complex tastes. If you chill them too much you don't actually taste anything. (As the poster says in our local pub, "What's the matter lager boy? Afraid you might taste something?". This goes for American real ales too. There are quite a few of them about. When I lived in Houston, our local Albertson's had quite a good selection. Many were best enjoyed at room temperature. As for Lucas the Prince of Darkness, I was slightly concerned when I lifted the hood of my Audi to find it packed with Lucas electronics. So far, they haven't actually failed... -- Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net "Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee" |
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Dylan Smith wrote: In article , Anthony wrote: Now for a Brit joke. Why do Brits drink warm beer? Lucas refrigerators. Seriously, it's because the beer actually tastes of something (all you get with ice cold lager is the taste of the CO2 and alcohol and not much else). Real ales have very varied and complex tastes. If you chill them too much you don't actually taste anything. (As the poster says in our local pub, "What's the matter lager boy? Afraid you might taste something?". This goes for American real ales too. There are quite a few of them about. When I lived in Houston, our local Albertson's had quite a good selection. Many were best enjoyed at room temperature. As for Lucas the Prince of Darkness, I was slightly concerned when I lifted the hood of my Audi to find it packed with Lucas electronics. So far, they haven't actually failed... Of course there is the ever present Lucas Three Position Switch: 1. "Dim" 2. "Flicker" 3. "Off." |
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Dylan Smith wrote:
As for Lucas the Prince of Darkness, I was slightly concerned when I lifted the hood of my Audi to find it packed with Lucas electronics. So far, they haven't actually failed... It's one thing to have a failure in an Audi, quite another for an Airbus. There are lots of Lucas contributions in the Airbus FBW system. They seem to be successfully staying aloft in most cases. |
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![]() "Dylan Smith" wrote in message ... In article , Anthony wrote: Now for a Brit joke. Why do Brits drink warm beer? Lucas refrigerators. Seriously, it's because the beer actually tastes of something (all you get with ice cold lager is the taste of the CO2 and alcohol and not much else). Real ales have very varied and complex tastes. If you chill them too much you don't actually taste anything. (As the poster says in our local pub, "What's the matter lager boy? Afraid you might taste something?". This goes for American real ales too. There are quite a few of them about. When I lived in Houston, our local Albertson's had quite a good selection. Many were best enjoyed at room temperature. As for Lucas the Prince of Darkness, I was slightly concerned when I lifted the hood of my Audi to find it packed with Lucas electronics. So far, they haven't actually failed... -- Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man I'm not a beer drinker but I used to ride BSAs and Nortons. I have to admit that's an old joke and I'm sure I heard it over 20 years ago. It's good to hear that Lucas has gotten there act together... ;o) |
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Seriously, it's because the beer actually tastes of something (all you
get with ice cold lager is the taste of the CO2 and alcohol and not much else). In a country that favors drinking the likes of "Bud Light" -- would you expect anything else? Shoot, if you were to warm a glass of Bud to room temperature you'd soon realize what a skunky glass of swill you were drinking. Thus, it's best to keep it really, REALLY cold. ;-) And actually, on a really hot, sticky day, an ice cold glass of Bud/Miller/Pabst/Grain Belt/Schlitz/Hamm's/Coors ain't bad. It just ain't beer. (BTW: Considering the hardships endured to fetch beer at OSH, we ended up with a nice collection of mostly good microbrews at the rec.aviation party. Good job, people!) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:50:27 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote: Seriously, it's because the beer actually tastes of something (all you get with ice cold lager is the taste of the CO2 and alcohol and not much else). In a country that favors drinking the likes of "Bud Light" -- would you expect anything else? Shoot, if you were to warm a glass of Bud to room temperature you'd soon realize what a skunky glass of swill you were drinking. Thus, it's best to keep it really, REALLY cold. ;-) And actually, on a really hot, sticky day, an ice cold glass of Bud/Miller/Pabst/Grain Belt/Schlitz/Hamm's/Coors ain't bad. It just ain't beer. (BTW: Considering the hardships endured to fetch beer at OSH, we ended up with a nice collection of mostly good microbrews at the rec.aviation party. Good job, people!) I've been to the UK for fairly long business trips 3 times, and was astounded at how many people there drink Bud when there are so many wonderful ales. Can't stand the stuff myself. Mike Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. "I always wanted to be somebody. I should have been more specific..." |
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004, Mike Patterson wrote:
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:50:27 GMT, "Jay Honeck" wrote: Seriously, it's because the beer actually tastes of something (all you get with ice cold lager is the taste of the CO2 and alcohol and not much else). In a country that favors drinking the likes of "Bud Light" -- would you expect anything else? Shoot, if you were to warm a glass of Bud to room temperature you'd soon realize what a skunky glass of swill you were drinking. Thus, it's best to keep it really, REALLY cold. ;-) And actually, on a really hot, sticky day, an ice cold glass of Bud/Miller/Pabst/Grain Belt/Schlitz/Hamm's/Coors ain't bad. It just ain't beer. (BTW: Considering the hardships endured to fetch beer at OSH, we ended up with a nice collection of mostly good microbrews at the rec.aviation party. Good job, people!) I've been to the UK for fairly long business trips 3 times, and was astounded at how many people there drink Bud when there are so many wonderful ales. Can't stand the stuff myself. I was in the UK in 2000; and Foster's was the beer of choice... OK, "Australia's Finest" is slightly better than Bud, but not by much, and there're so many good local beers - why Fosters, for Dog's sake? Yes, I'm a beer snob. Brian. |
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"Brian Burger" wrote in message
.tc.ca... I was in the UK in 2000; and Foster's was the beer of choice... OK, "Australia's Finest" is slightly better than Bud, but not by much, and there're so many good local beers - why Fosters, for Dog's sake? People drink Fosters because it's pretty much the same as any other lager and it's cheaper. The UK has gone through a bit of a crisis a "real ale" over the past few decades. It's still happening and getting worse. It's like how someone described the large breweries taking over due to their marketing in the US. A lot of the smaller breweries here have been taken over by the big ones and either completely closed or their most popular brews discontinued. Young people now drink lager. Real ale has an image problem, it's seen as the drink of old men sitting around in a near empty pub. A lot of advertising is done by the lager producers and as a result, pretty much all young people, and many older people drink either Carlsburg or Stella Artois...traditional but "trendy" foreign lagers. Stella, in particular, has a good advertising campaign where the lager is portrayed to be very expensive and highly prized, coupled with its Belgian heritage. You can see their latest ad here (which brings this back on topic if you watch the ad!). http://www.stellaartois.co.uk/ and click on "advertising". As far as I can recall, the only television advertising I can remember for "real beer" was for John Smiths and for Worthingtons but neither are/were very consistent. Guinness advertising is another matter entirely. Paul |
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"Paul Sengupta" wrote in message
news:cfq3r6$lf1 As far as I can recall, the only television advertising I can remember for "real beer" was for John Smiths and for Worthingtons but neither are/were very consistent. Oh, and Boddingtons... |
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In article , Paul Sengupta wrote:
Young people now drink lager. Real ale has an image problem, it's seen as the drink of old men sitting around in a near empty pub. It depends. I've never been a fan of lager. My local (The Bay, Port Erin) is a real ale pub. I see plenty of teenagers/early 20s in there. Drinking real ale. Of course the pub itself caters to a young audience - there's live bands, the staff themselves are all young. (There's plenty of old farts in there too, it seems to have this magical thing that's attractive to all ages). Plenty still drink alcopops (which are evil) and lager (which doesn't taste of anything but CO2), but that's up to them. Most seem to like proper beer. Of course, the Isle of Man isn't the UK, and Bushy's (IMHO the best brewery out of the three we have, and it's not the biggest either) has managed to project an image here that sells to the younger audience, and have managed to get themselves strongly associated with the TT thanks to their merchanidise (t-shirts and the like). It therefore doesn't have the old-men-in-a-smoky-pub image. Somewhere like here, it's not too expensive to market well to the locals. However, in the UK, how does Archers of Swindon compete with the marketing muscle of Foster's? They can't. But once you get someone drinking proper hand-pulled beer, they often wonder why they ever drank lager. It's getting them that first pint that's the trouble. Most of our pubs have proper beer engines too, there aren't many places (really just hotel bars and the like) that only do CO2-driven beer. Chilled, fizzy bitter tastes like cat's ****, and if you're somewhere where there aren't many pubs with proper beer engines, you'll wind up drinking lager. There is no subsitute for hand-pulling proper beer. The other problem with real beer is you have to keep it properly. Many 'non-real ale' pubs keep bitters improperly or don't know how to keep them, and it tastes terrible as a consequence. Lager on the other hand is difficult to screw up, so it's easy to get the same bland taste every time and consistently. -- Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net "Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee" |
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