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Hood and sim work at night loggable as night time?



 
 
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Old September 8th 06, 09:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ron Garret
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Default Hood and sim work at night loggable as night time?

My instructor claims that when you fly under the hood at night you can't
log it as night time, only as simulated instrument time. Is he right?
I can't find anything in the FARs to support his assertion.

What about simulator time at night? Can you log that as night time?

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Old September 8th 06, 12:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ron Natalie
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Default Hood and sim work at night loggable as night time?

Ron Garret wrote:
My instructor claims that when you fly under the hood at night you can't
log it as night time, only as simulated instrument time. Is he right?
I can't find anything in the FARs to support his assertion.


He's wrong. Night / Day are independent of Instrument conditions.


What about simulator time at night? Can you log that as night time?


That's a different issue. I suspect that if it is a true SIMULATOR
(i.e. one of those full motion jet types) you might be able to count
it. However, a "training device" that we normally use for GA training
wouldn't count for anything that "night time" logging would be useful
and they don't really give a day/night presentation. Are you going
to log it because you did your simulator work after sundown or because
the clock on the simulator was set to midnight?
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Old September 8th 06, 12:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Default Hood and sim work at night loggable as night time?

Log day/night if you're in an airplane. Log simulator if
you're in a simulator. Log hood/simulated instrument in an
airplane.


"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...
| Ron Garret wrote:
| My instructor claims that when you fly under the hood at
night you can't
| log it as night time, only as simulated instrument time.
Is he right?
| I can't find anything in the FARs to support his
assertion.
|
| He's wrong. Night / Day are independent of Instrument
conditions.
|
|
| What about simulator time at night? Can you log that as
night time?
|
|
| That's a different issue. I suspect that if it is a true
SIMULATOR
| (i.e. one of those full motion jet types) you might be
able to count
| it. However, a "training device" that we normally use
for GA training
| wouldn't count for anything that "night time" logging
would be useful
| and they don't really give a day/night presentation. Are
you going
| to log it because you did your simulator work after
sundown or because
| the clock on the simulator was set to midnight?


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Old September 8th 06, 02:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Moore
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Default Hood and sim work at night loggable as night time?

Jim Macklin wrote
Log day/night if you're in an airplane. Log simulator if
you're in a simulator. Log hood/simulated instrument in an
airplane.


Jim, did you mean to say "Log actual/simulated" in an airplane?

Bob Moore
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Old September 8th 06, 02:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Default Hood and sim work at night loggable as night time?

probably, but it is early in the morning and I have not yet
eaten.


"Bob Moore" wrote in message
. 122...
| Jim Macklin wrote
| Log day/night if you're in an airplane. Log simulator
if
| you're in a simulator. Log hood/simulated instrument in
an
| airplane.
|
| Jim, did you mean to say "Log actual/simulated" in an
airplane?
|
| Bob Moore


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Old September 9th 06, 02:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Greg B
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Default Hood and sim work at night loggable as night time?

"Ron Garret" wrote in message
...
My instructor claims that when you fly under the hood at night you can't
log it as night time, only as simulated instrument time. Is he right?
I can't find anything in the FARs to support his assertion.


I did my primary training 8 years ago so the rules on this may have changed
since. I did my 3 hours of night flight cross country with the 10 landings
all in one session and it included 1.5 hours of hood time.
That one flight was logged as:
10 landings
3.0 hours airplane SEL
3.0 hours Cross Country
3.0 hours Night
1.5 hours Simulated Instruments
3.0 hours Dual Received
The DE didn't have a problem with it when he went through my logbook.

-Greg B.


 




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