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Old February 5th 07, 08:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Danny Deger
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Default Straight-ins at uncontrolled airports?

I haven't flown in a while, but am in the market for a used plane.

I recalling hearing somewhere that straight-in approaches are now approved
at uncontrolled airports. Is this correct?

Danny Deger


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Old February 5th 07, 08:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
karl gruber[_1_]
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"Danny Deger" wrote in message
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I haven't flown in a while, but am in the market for a used plane.

I recalling hearing somewhere that straight-in approaches are now approved
at uncontrolled airports. Is this correct?

Danny Deger


Approved by whom?

They've never been against any regulation, but are not necessarily the best
way to enter a pattern.

Karl


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Old February 5th 07, 08:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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Default Straight-ins at uncontrolled airports?


"karl gruber" wrote in message
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They've never been against any regulation, but are not necessarily the
best way to enter a pattern.


But may very well be.



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Old February 5th 07, 10:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Danny Deger
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Default Straight-ins at uncontrolled airports?


"karl gruber" wrote in message
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"Danny Deger" wrote in message
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I haven't flown in a while, but am in the market for a used plane.

I recalling hearing somewhere that straight-in approaches are now
approved at uncontrolled airports. Is this correct?

Danny Deger


Approved by whom?

They've never been against any regulation, but are not necessarily the
best way to enter a pattern.


Good point. Uncontrolled patterns are not a regulation, but I think the FAA
publishes the recommeneded pattern. I know when I flew before, a straight
in was not a recommended pattern, but I thought I had heard it is now. If
you are lined up on final as you approach the airport, it is OK to just come
in straight.

Danny Deger


Karl



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Old February 5th 07, 08:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Beckman
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Default Straight-ins at uncontrolled airports?


"Danny Deger" wrote in message
...
I haven't flown in a while, but am in the market for a used plane.

I recalling hearing somewhere that straight-in approaches are now approved
at uncontrolled airports. Is this correct?

Danny Deger


Straight In has never been "disapproved."

It may not, however, be the best way to arrive.

YMMV,

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ


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Old February 6th 07, 03:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Straight-ins at uncontrolled airports?

On Feb 5, 1:52 pm, "Jay Beckman" wrote:
"Danny Deger" wrote in message

...

I haven't flown in a while, but am in the market for a used plane.


I recalling hearing somewhere that straight-in approaches are now approved
at uncontrolled airports. Is this correct?


Danny Deger


Straight In has never been "disapproved."

It may not, however, be the best way to arrive.

YMMV,

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ


It may not have been disapproved by official regulation.
It is disapproved by many pilots, though. ;)
Especially me. I have enough to deal with when everyone, including
me, is where they belong.

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Old February 6th 07, 06:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Straight-ins at uncontrolled airports?

On 5 Feb 2007 19:28:37 -0800, wrote:

On Feb 5, 1:52 pm, "Jay Beckman" wrote:
"Danny Deger" wrote in message

...

I haven't flown in a while, but am in the market for a used plane.


I recalling hearing somewhere that straight-in approaches are now approved
at uncontrolled airports. Is this correct?


Danny Deger


Straight In has never been "disapproved."

It may not, however, be the best way to arrive.

YMMV,

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ


It may not have been disapproved by official regulation.
It is disapproved by many pilots, though. ;)
Especially me. I have enough to deal with when everyone, including
me, is where they belong.


With Jets coming in, if they flew the pattern or not, they'd be so far
out no one would know the difference here.

Training planes fly a fairly tight pattern.
High performance is a bit wider and longer,
Twins are wider and longer still.
Big twins, still more and Jets are much farther out.

Of course, here we have on instrument approach that is half pattern
altitude and comes in on a 137 degree heading while our runways are
06/24 and 18/36. The GPS approaches to 06 and 24 might as well be
straight in. The IAF is 11 miles out with the FAF being 5.1 from the
end of the runway. (all in a straight line)

Late in the day it can get pretty busy so any one in the pattern needs
their head on a swivel. With the different class planes and three
approaches, traffic may be *anywhere*
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
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Old February 8th 07, 10:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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ps.com...

It may not have been disapproved by official regulation.
It is disapproved by many pilots, though. ;)
Especially me. I have enough to deal with when everyone, including
me, is where they belong.


Aircraft don't "belong" on final?



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Old February 9th 07, 12:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Straight-ins at uncontrolled airports?

On Feb 8, 3:13 pm, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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ps.com...



It may not have been disapproved by official regulation.
It is disapproved by many pilots, though. ;)
Especially me. I have enough to deal with when everyone, including
me, is where they belong.


Aircraft don't "belong" on final?


Of course they do. But the "belong" on final as part of the regular,
expected pattern.
Some of the posters have some reasonable situations for straight-ins.
But if you're flying the usual 4 or 6 banger at the usual speeds, you
are best and safest joining the pattern in the usual, expected manner
to get where you belong. Calling final 10 miles out doesn't cut it.

I don't see it often, but a couple times while flying a glider in the
pattern, I had pilots call a long final, and I couldn't even see them
anywhere. Sure, I had the right of way, but.....

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Old February 14th 07, 11:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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oups.com...

Of course they do. But the "belong" on final as part of the regular,
expected pattern.


Why only then?



Some of the posters have some reasonable situations for straight-ins.
But if you're flying the usual 4 or 6 banger at the usual speeds, you
are best and safest joining the pattern in the usual, expected manner
to get where you belong. Calling final 10 miles out doesn't cut it.


Why not?



I don't see it often, but a couple times while flying a glider in the
pattern, I had pilots call a long final, and I couldn't even see them
anywhere. Sure, I had the right of way, but.....


What gave you the right-of-way? How did you determine right-of-way was an
issue?


 




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