(OT) MS Simmers

I do not understand why so many of you real time pilots take such a negative
look at simmers.

I have always loved aviation. For me, because of physical limitations and
age, I will never be able to fly a real airplane alone.

I understand that it will never compare to rt experiences, and I also
understand that idiots like mxmaniac do not represent us simmers. It is a
game, but it does give us some little feel about flying.

I have a friend who flies for Continental on 737's from Newark,, He is
impressed with simming and says it is a good way to learn the basics, but
not a substitute for RT.


I enjoy listening and learning from you folks and I know we might post
stupid questions at times. Maybe we are jealous of you. I am. So please bear
with the ignorance.

Dan

Dan544 writes:

I do not understand why so many of you real time pilots take such a negative
look at simmers.

I think some pilots are more interested in aviation as a means to impress
others than as an end in itself. Such pilots are irritated by anyone who
seems to be trespassing on their turf. Pilots who are interested in aviation
for its own sake logically would not be bothered.

I understand that it will never compare to rt experiences, and I also
understand that idiots like mxmaniac do not represent us simmers.

Is an idiot anything like a cripple?

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Mxsmanic wrote:
Dan544 writes:

I do not understand why so many of you real time pilots take such a negative
look at simmers.

I think some pilots are more interested in aviation as a means to impress
others than as an end in itself. Such pilots are irritated by anyone who
seems to be trespassing on their turf. Pilots who are interested in aviation
for its own sake logically would not be bothered.

I understand that it will never compare to rt experiences, and I also
understand that idiots like mxmaniac do not represent us simmers.

Is an idiot anything like a cripple?

Yes, it is a mental cripple.

--
Jim Pennino

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Dan544 writes:


I think some pilots are more interested in aviation as a means to impress
others than as an end in itself. Such pilots are irritated by anyone who
seems to be trespassing on their turf. Pilots who are interested in
aviation
for its own sake logically would not be bothered.

Mx I am not getting into a battle with you in this room . I am here to
learn a little bit. I think as you grow older, impressing other people is
not the most inportant thing in life. Why dont you stop trying to impress
people with your intellect.

We all have dreams and sometimes we cant acheive them for many reasons. You
have dreams and for whatever reasons you miss your goals you need to blame
it on others.

I think you are a very intelligent man Mx. It is a shame that you turn so
many people off.. You have many good arguments, but the presentation leaves
a lot to be desired.


Is an idiot anything like a cripple?

Sorry.. It is not my style to charactarize anyone like that..

My last post on this. Have a good day.

Dan

Dan544 writes:

Is an idiot anything like a cripple?

Sorry.. It is not my style to charactarize anyone like that..

You said "idiots like mxmaniac." I was wondering if you ridicule people in
other equally cruel and thoughtless ways as well. You know, people who have,
say, physical limitations, or age.

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Dan544 writes:

Is an idiot anything like a cripple?

Sorry.. It is not my style to charactarize anyone like that..

You said "idiots like mxmaniac." I was wondering if you ridicule people
in
other equally cruel and thoughtless ways as well. You know, people who
have,
say, physical limitations, or age.


What is it that you do not understand the word Sorry?

Dan

Dan544 wrote:
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Dan544 writes:

Is an idiot anything like a cripple?

Sorry.. It is not my style to charactarize anyone like that..

You said "idiots like mxmaniac." I was wondering if you ridicule
people in
other equally cruel and thoughtless ways as well. You know, people
who have,
say, physical limitations, or age.


What is it that you do not understand the word Sorry?


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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Dan544 writes:

Is an idiot anything like a cripple?

Sorry.. It is not my style to charactarize anyone like that..

You said "idiots like mxmaniac." I was wondering if you ridicule
people in other equally cruel and thoughtless ways as well. You know,
people who have, say, physical limitations, or age.


Snort!

Whoosh!

Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Dan544 writes:

I do not understand why so many of you real time pilots take such a
negative look at simmers.

I think some pilots are more interested in aviation as a means to
impress others than as an end in itself. Such pilots are irritated by
anyone who seems to be trespassing on their turf. Pilots who are
interested in aviation for its own sake logically would not be
bothered.

Nobody's bothered moron. You're just sport..


Bertie

On Apr 27, 7:03 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Dan544 writes:
I do not understand why so many of you real time pilots take such a negative
look at simmers.

I think some pilots are more interested in aviation as a means to impress
others than as an end in itself. Such pilots are irritated by anyone who
seems to be trespassing on their turf.

There was a thread not too long ago about an article in some magazine
talking about the declining pilot population. Someone said, and I
agree with him on this point, that this could be in part due to pilots
no longer being seen as "heroes" by the general public. People like
Yeager and Lindberg were looked up to back in the day. People were
drawn to aviation because they wanted to be seen as "heroes" by
everyone else. The same thing goes for actors; a good majority of them
are only drawn to the profession because of the glamor of Hollywood.

People here expected to be fawned over because they have a pilot
certificate. MX doesn't fawn over anyone. He sees answers to his
question as just that; answers to questions. He sees people here as
human beings who happen to have a lot of knowledge pertaining to
aviation; not demigods who have blessed him with their presence. I had
college professors who thought highly of themselves who were the same
way. They'd give an unclear answer, and if you questioned them, you'd
get scoffed off.

When I was little I didn't idolize any aviators. I didn't have F-14
posters on my wall, nor did I care for anything else aviation related.
If I were to meet a Blue Angel, I would have just said "uhhh, hi". I
don't think I even had a toy airplane growing up. I actually did have
a friend when I was little who was into aviation big time. He could
tell you the engine thrust, takeoff weight, and everything else for
just about every single military plane ever made. I thought he was
just a big dweeb.

I guess I just kind of fell into aviation. I started because I like
the science of it. I like traveling. I like adventure. Even now my
relationship with aviation is very cold and distant. I don't sleep
with my POH's, but I do study them. I don't feel those warm fuzzy
feelings most pilots say they feel, but I do feel other feelings.
Those other feelings I guess only people like me can feel, not those
who see aviation completely differently...

I don't ever hope to pick up chicks with my striped epaulets, nor do I
ever expect people to fawn over me when I say those magic words "I'm a
pilot" at a cocktail party. Thats just now why I do it. If a non-pilot
asks me a question pertaining to aviation, and I give him an answer
that he thinks is wrong, I'm not going to be insulted. I'll use my
superior knowledge to defend my position, but I sure as hell won't get
emotional about it.

Doctors don't go off on their patients calling them morons when the
patient disagrees with the prognosis, why should pilots? It's just not
professional.

Honestly, this kind of behavior, seen on this newsgroup, and in real
life, has recently made me doubt wanting to continue my aviation
career. It's one of those things I've been trying to not think about,
because it always gets me down.

Sorry this post has been all over the place, but this topic has been
going through my mind for a few years now. It's not something I can
just condense into a few paragraphs.


Pilots who are interested in aviation
for its own sake logically would not be bothered.

Which is me. Some of the questions you post are pretty stupid, but I
just ignore those. They're just words on a computer screen. It's not
worth having an aneurysm over. Some of your questions are very good,
and if others would take them seriously could be even more interesting.