GW Bu$h's Torture Chambers and Rape rooms ...!

"The Todal" wrote in message ...
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"= Vox Populi ©" wrote in message (snipped):
Six U.S. troops charged with Iraq torture

I have seen the photos and they are appalling.

The treatment of prisoners is utterly indefensible.

At least America is dealing with it, and has admitted it. Many countries
that use torture would never dream of allowing these reports.

Well, perhaps it would be more accurate to say: now that it's in the public
domain the PR people in the White House and the Pentagon can see that it is
indefensible and they are duly blaming it all on renegade troops or (better
still) outside contractors. Meanwhile, all the other torture will not be
admitted until it has been discovered.

This incident was being investigated before it came out in the news.
The first news reports I saw of this (I think CBS was the network that
"broke" the story) said that dicipline was already being handed out to
those directly involved and to several officers, including a general,
in the responsible command.

Compare this to some "regimes" that would give the perps medals for
doing crap like this.

You'd think by now, folks from the "Americas Funniest Home Videos" generation
would understand that there are some times you really should just leave the
camera in the bag...

I agree though - this doesn't reflect on the President directly, but you can be
damn sure he knows what kind of repercussions are going to happen. Those US
soldiers in the photos may as well go jump off a cliff, because every
grandstanding politician from here to India is going to be using it as an
excuse to appear on tv, denouncing the unforgiveable crime of showing us these
guy's furry asses.

Yuck.

"Krztalizer" wrote in message
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You'd think by now, folks from the "Americas Funniest Home Videos" generation
would understand that there are some times you really should just leave the
camera in the bag...

I agree though - this doesn't reflect on the President directly, but you can
be
damn sure he knows what kind of repercussions are going to happen. Those US
soldiers in the photos may as well go jump off a cliff, because every
grandstanding politician from here to India is going to be using it as an
excuse to appear on tv, denouncing the unforgiveable crime of showing us these
guy's furry asses.

Yuck.

For a change, I completely agree with one of the President's public statements.
The Americans responsible for those photographs who indulged themselves for
their own pleasure apparently don't even have a clue as to how many additional
American lives their fun and games are going to cost us down the road.

It was a disgusting performance by a bunch of brainless jerks responsible for
the health and well-being of Iraqi prisoners. If they're military people, they
deserve to be courts-martialed, and if they're contract employees, they ought to
be terminated and abandoned where they stand to find their own ways out of Iraq.

If the job isn't tough enough, it's pretty sad that some of our enemies turn out
to be our own people.

George Z.

"George Z. Bush" wrote:


"Krztalizer" wrote in message
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You'd think by now, folks from the "Americas Funniest Home Videos" generation
would understand that there are some times you really should just leave the
camera in the bag...

I agree though - this doesn't reflect on the President directly, but you can
be
damn sure he knows what kind of repercussions are going to happen. Those US
soldiers in the photos may as well go jump off a cliff, because every
grandstanding politician from here to India is going to be using it as an
excuse to appear on tv, denouncing the unforgiveable crime of showing us these
guy's furry asses.

Yuck.

For a change, I completely agree with one of the President's public statements.
The Americans responsible for those photographs who indulged themselves for
their own pleasure apparently don't even have a clue as to how many additional
American lives their fun and games are going to cost us down the road.

It was a disgusting performance by a bunch of brainless jerks responsible for
the health and well-being of Iraqi prisoners. If they're military people, they
deserve to be courts-martialed, and if they're contract employees, they ought to
be terminated and abandoned where they stand to find their own ways out of Iraq.

If the job isn't tough enough, it's pretty sad that some of our enemies turn out
to be our own people.

George Z.



Are these really humans?...I saw no evidence of it here. In the
same vein as the jerks who caused the Canadian Airbourne
Regiment's disbandment a few years ago...senseless nincompoops
without a brain in their heads...
--

-Gord.

"Krztalizer" wrote in message
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I agree though - this doesn't reflect on the President directly, but you
can be
damn sure he knows what kind of repercussions are going to happen.

I think they should be hauled before the Joint Chiefs, told "do you realise
this footage could loose us the war?" then have the photos sown to their
skins before being air-dropped naked into Falluja.

Si

I think they should be hauled before the Joint Chiefs, told "do you realise
this footage could loose us the war?" then have the photos sown to their
skins before being air-dropped naked into Falluja.

I would give each one them an M-16 and a ride to Najaf, they would serve as
infantry in the hottest spots in Iraq (including the female) until their trial.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

"Curtis CCR" wrote in message
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"The Todal" wrote in message
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"Bystander" wrote in message
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"= Vox Populi ©" wrote in message (snipped):
Six U.S. troops charged with Iraq torture

I have seen the photos and they are appalling.

The treatment of prisoners is utterly indefensible.

At least America is dealing with it, and has admitted it. Many countries
that use torture would never dream of allowing these reports.

Well, perhaps it would be more accurate to say: now that it's in the public
domain the PR people in the White House and the Pentagon can see that it is
indefensible and they are duly blaming it all on renegade troops or (better
still) outside contractors. Meanwhile, all the other torture will not be
admitted until it has been discovered.

This incident was being investigated before it came out in the news.
The first news reports I saw of this (I think CBS was the network that
"broke" the story) said that dicipline was already being handed out to
those directly involved and to several officers, including a general,
in the responsible command.

Compare this to some "regimes" that would give the perps medals for
doing crap like this.

Yes indeed. There are always going to be some people who think they can get away
with such nonsense. Unlike many other countries, the US does not condone or
support such actions, and punishes the people involved.

"Yardpilot" wrote in message
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"Curtis CCR" wrote in message
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"The Todal" wrote in message
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"Bystander" wrote in message
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"= Vox Populi ©" wrote in message (snipped):
Six U.S. troops charged with Iraq torture

I have seen the photos and they are appalling.

The treatment of prisoners is utterly indefensible.

At least America is dealing with it, and has admitted it. Many
countries
that use torture would never dream of allowing these reports.

Well, perhaps it would be more accurate to say: now that it's in the
public
domain the PR people in the White House and the Pentagon can see that
it is
indefensible and they are duly blaming it all on renegade troops or
(better
still) outside contractors. Meanwhile, all the other torture will not
be
admitted until it has been discovered.

This incident was being investigated before it came out in the news.
The first news reports I saw of this (I think CBS was the network that
"broke" the story) said that dicipline was already being handed out to
those directly involved and to several officers, including a general,
in the responsible command.

Compare this to some "regimes" that would give the perps medals for
doing crap like this.

Yes indeed. There are always going to be some people who think they can
get away
with such nonsense. Unlike many other countries, the US does not condone
or
support such actions, and punishes the people involved.


Where are the videos of Americans cheering in the streets over what
happened, like the supporters ofd the "insurgents" when they hung the burned
bodies of our dead from bridges? There are none because we are not cheering.

-*MORT*-

"Morton Davis" wrote in message
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"The Todal" wrote in message
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"Bystander" wrote in message
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"= Vox Populi ©" wrote in message (snipped):
Six U.S. troops charged with Iraq torture

I have seen the photos and they are appalling.

The treatment of prisoners is utterly indefensible.

At least America is dealing with it, and has admitted it. Many
countries
that use torture would never dream of allowing these reports.

Well, perhaps it would be more accurate to say: now that it's in the
public
domain the PR people in the White House and the Pentagon can see that
it is
indefensible and they are duly blaming it all on renegade troops or
(better
still) outside contractors. Meanwhile, all the other torture will not
be
admitted until it has been discovered.

This incident was being investigated before it came out in the news.
The first news reports I saw of this (I think CBS was the network that
"broke" the story) said that dicipline was already being handed out to
those directly involved and to several officers, including a general,
in the responsible command.

Compare this to some "regimes" that would give the perps medals for
doing crap like this.

Yes indeed. There are always going to be some people who think they can
get away
with such nonsense. Unlike many other countries, the US does not condone
or
support such actions, and punishes the people involved.


Where are the videos of Americans cheering in the streets over what
happened, like the supporters ofd the "insurgents" when they hung the burned
bodies of our dead from bridges? There are none because we are not cheering.

If something like this happens, we crack down on the perpetrators. Few if any
people celebrate such things. It seems we worry more about people in other
countries than we do our own when it comes to abuse of authority.

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"Morton Davis" wrote in message
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Where are the videos of Americans cheering in the streets over what
happened, like the supporters ofd the "insurgents" when they hung the burned
bodies of our dead from bridges? There are none because we are not cheering.

If something like this happens, we crack down on the perpetrators. Few if any
people celebrate such things. It seems we worry more about people in other
countries than we do our own when it comes to abuse of authority.

Feel free to prove your assertion.

Here's proof of how the Bush Administration cracked down BEFOR photos
were published:

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...p?story=518258

In Washington, an army official revealed that one US soldier
was convicted of murder for shooting a prisoner to death in
September 2003 at a detention centre in Iraq, and that another
prisoner was killed at the Abu Ghraib jail near Baghdad
two months later by a private contractor working for the CIA.

The soldier - convicted by court martial - was thrown out
of the service but did not serve time in jail. The official
said that the soldier shot the prisoner after he had thrown
stones at him. The serviceman was found to have used excessive
force. No action was taken against the CIA contractor because
the military had no legal jurisdiction.

OTOH, Reuters reported that the soldier was convicted of murder for
killing the prisoner with a stone. It seems we need the text of the
actua DOD news release.

Would you care to post it for us?

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FF