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Anyone selling their Sparrowhawk Sailplane. If so, you may PM me so I can contact you. I can PM you my phone number. I am located in Southern California.

Thx,
Bert

On Jul 24, 6:41*pm, simple2code simple2code.
wrote:
Anyone selling their Sparrowhawk Sailplane. *If so, you may PM me so I
can contact you. *I can PM you my phone number. *I am located in
Southern California.

Thx,
Bert

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simple2code

All - I think a translation is in order. I had never hear of "PM"
before so I looked it up. I believe it stands for Personal or Private
Message, meaning that you should send a note to this author via one-on-
one direct email and not through RAS (which is public). Oh, those
trendy SoCal foks!

http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry. I did a search for
"Windward" and "Sparrowhawk" and got multiple hits. Alas, none in
California. However the FAA database will give you the name and
address of every owner. You can then send them some SM* to see if
they want to sell.

My $0.02.

- John DeRosa

* SM = snail mail = regular old surface mail - see I can be trendy too
and I live in Illinois!

Hi John
Many and perhaps most SparrowHawk owners me included prefer to
operate under Part 103. This means no registration so the FAA has no
records of any SparrowHawk operating under Part 103. Why Part 103 and
not experimental? For several reasons - a couple being no county taxes
and no restrictions on where I can fly it in the US. Also I don't have
to fill out that yearly form the FAA now requires for experimental
aircraft. Remember my SparrowHawk is considered to be an "ultralight
vehicle" and not an aircraft.
Dave


http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry. *I did a search for
"Windward" and "Sparrowhawk" and got multiple hits. *Alas, none in
California. *However the FAA database will give you the name and
address of every owner. *You can then send them some SM* to see if
they want to sell.

On Jul 25, 2:09*pm, kd6veb wrote:
This means no registration so the FAA has no
records of any SparrowHawk operating under Part 103. Why Part 103 and
not experimental?

Remember my SparrowHawk is considered to be an "ultralight
vehicle" and not an aircraft.

Many tow operations don't realize their insurance is void when towing
an ultralight unpowered vehicle.

-Tom

On Jul 30, 8:16*pm, 5Z wrote:
On Jul 25, 2:09*pm, kd6veb wrote:

This means no registration so the FAA has no
records of any SparrowHawk operating under Part 103. Why Part 103 and
not experimental?
Remember my SparrowHawk is considered to be an "ultralight
vehicle" and not an aircraft.

Many tow operations don't realize their insurance is void when towing
an ultralight unpowered vehicle.

-Tom

This is an urban myth.

Richard

This is an urban myth.

Richard

Really? I'm pretty sure that Pat Costello told me this exactly at the
last SSA Convention. No N number, no insurance under the SSA Group
policy. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think so.

On Jul 31, 8:00*am, Richard wrote:
On Jul 30, 8:16*pm, 5Z wrote:

On Jul 25, 2:09*pm, kd6veb wrote:

This means no registration so the FAA has no
records of any SparrowHawk operating under Part 103. Why Part 103 and
not experimental?
Remember my SparrowHawk is considered to be an "ultralight
vehicle" and not an aircraft.

Many tow operations don't realize their insurance is void when towing
an ultralight unpowered vehicle.

-Tom

This is an urban myth.

Richard

It's not that their insurance becomes void, rather they either think
is does or they are looking for an excuse to not tow the SparrowHawk.
In any event, the SparrowHawk flys just like any other standard class
ship, it's just lighter. This does not mean that it is any more
twitchy or particularly easy to over control, rather it is simply very
responsive to the pilots inputs. In addition, the moments of inertia
and general wing loadings are just about the same, ratio metrically,
to a standard class ship. The best way I can describe this is
something like going from a large comfortable sedan then jumping into
a small high performance sports car. I have had tows from several
different type of aircraft all over the West and in various
conditions. This has included lots of slack-ropes and what not's.
Additionally, the tows have been between 60 and 90 knots with out any
concern of over controlling or adverse results. The only time I had a
tow pilot question a tow was when he took a look at the weak-link and
proceeded to investigate. After an interview and a look over of the
bird, off we went. Our club (High Desert Soaring) has been towing
SparrowHawks since 2002 immediately after consulting with our
insurance company. I think it is Costello. Perhaps also, that sence I
am a current member of the USHGPA, I automatically have a $1M
liability insurance while I fly any aircraft that is legally under the
auspices of Part-103. The SparrowHawk is indeed this.

As far as thermaling goes, after 250 or so hours in mine, I can say
that it can allow you to take advantage of it's nimbleness and
dexterity with those firs-hose thermals, but in generally weak lift it
seems to not have real advantage over any other clean 15 meter ship.
Also remember, its the Pilot not the Polar.

On Jul 24, 4:41*pm, simple2code simple2code.
wrote:
Anyone selling their Sparrowhawk Sailplane. *If so, you may PM me so I
can contact you. *I can PM you my phone number. *I am located in
Southern California.

Thx,
Bert

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simple2code

Patrick replies:

Hello Bert,

It just so happens, I am selling mine. I have about 250 Hours on it.
SN 10, has a full complement of Winter instruments and the Cambridge
302 & 303, MM Trailer.

I am located in Redmond Oregon, just 10 mi. from Windward Performance.
I am asking a rather firm $40K

I can be reached by cell 541-771-0101
or

On Jul 25, 8:50*pm, Patrick McLaughlin
wrote:

It just so happens, I am selling mine.

I've seen this one. Nice rig, well-equipped. It probably has a nice o2
system, too.

Bob K.

On Jul 25, 11:36*pm, Bob Kuykendall wrote:
On Jul 25, 8:50*pm, Patrick McLaughlin
wrote:

It just so happens, I am selling mine.

I've seen this one. Nice rig, well-equipped. It probably has a nice o2
system, too.

Bob K.

Haven't seen the plane in question but I just spent a week flying and
hanging out with Patrick at the Logan Regional contest. He's a
quality individual and I am sure the SparrowHawk is as he describes
it, based on what I saw of his other 'craft this week!