iPhone Logger?

From time to time I check the iPhone app store for soaring apps. I
just came across GlidePath. The developer claims it's OLC compliant. I
havent purchased it yet, but it looks like a good backup for OLC
flying.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/glide...83714417?mt=8#

Pete

On Sep 1, 6:59*am, vontresc wrote:
From time to time I check the iPhone app store for soaring apps. I
just came across GlidePath. The developer claims it's OLC compliant. I
havent purchased it yet, but it looks like a good backup for OLC
flying.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/glide...83714417?mt=8#

Pete

Interesting App. My concern would be battery life without external
power. I've used a few tracking and logging apps on my iPhone and
find I am limited to a couple of hours before needing a recharge.
Presumably it also won't plot a map without Internet access. Assuming
this is available via 3G, this is currently likely a violation of
contest rules.

Mike

On Sep 1, 9:17*am, Mike the Strike wrote:
On Sep 1, 6:59*am, vontresc wrote:

From time to time I check the iPhone app store for soaring apps. I
just came across GlidePath. The developer claims it's OLC compliant. I
havent purchased it yet, but it looks like a good backup for OLC
flying.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/glide...83714417?mt=8#

Pete

Interesting App. *My concern would be battery life without external
power. *I've used a few tracking and logging apps on my iPhone and
find I am limited to a couple of hours before needing a recharge.
Presumably it also won't plot a map without Internet access. *Assuming
this is available via 3G, this is currently likely a violation of
contest rules.

Mike

OLC Contest Rules? They don't seem to care about communication
devices.
I suspect it is not aimed at sanctioned contests and would not try to
be an IGC position recorder.

The power consumption is likely to be high. I don't believe it can
rely on the background low-power tracking mode in iOS 4 as that relies
on cell tower switching tricks.

Anybody tried it?

Darryl

Hi All,

I'm the author of GlidePath. Just to clarify a few things -- we are
OLC approved, although I have gotten a couple of comments about
validation problems, and we'll be releasing a new version shortly that
resolves these issues. I'm hoping to get it approved as an IGC
Position Recorder, which is a new class of loggers that can only be
used for Silver and Gold badges. There are some obstacles for using
this in contests due to the phone's abilities, but I believe that a
technical solution can be found that will be satisfying to the contest
officials for use as a backup logger.

The really nice features of GlidePath a

1. Super easy OLC submission: You just log your flight, and tap a
couple of times, and your flight is on OLC. No hassles with SD cards
and making sure you get everything transferred before the OLC weekly
deadline.
2. Super easy transfer of flights to your computer: Just push a
button and the flight is emailed to yourself or anyone else.
3. Very low cost to start logging your flights, which is especially
useful to newcomers to the sport who may be flying club gliders. They
can start analyzing their flights quickly and easily, and start
participating on OLC even before they start doing real x/c.

Some tips:

1. Turn off Wi-Fi and Cellular Data for the best GPS reception
2. Make sure the phone has a clear view of the sky. It's easy to
accomplish this by either using a cheap suction cup mount or a running
type armband.
3. For long flights, battery life may be a concern. Turning off Wi-Fi
and Cellular Data help a lot, but you may want to consider one of the
available external batteries or plugging into ships power with one of
the car adapters available for the phone. Battery life is also an
area I will be addressing in the next couple of versions.


On Sep 1, 11:30*am, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Sep 1, 9:17*am, Mike the Strike wrote:





On Sep 1, 6:59*am, vontresc wrote:

From time to time I check the iPhone app store for soaring apps. I
just came across GlidePath. The developer claims it's OLC compliant. I
havent purchased it yet, but it looks like a good backup for OLC
flying.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/glide...83714417?mt=8#

Pete

Interesting App. *My concern would be battery life without external
power. *I've used a few tracking and logging apps on my iPhone and
find I am limited to a couple of hours before needing a recharge.
Presumably it also won't plot a map without Internet access. *Assuming
this is available via 3G, this is currently likely a violation of
contest rules.

Mike

OLC Contest Rules? They don't seem to care about communication
devices.
I suspect it is not aimed at sanctioned contests and would not try to
be an IGC position recorder.

The power consumption is likely to be high. I don't believe it can
rely on the background low-power tracking mode in iOS 4 as that relies
on cell tower switching tricks.

Anybody tried it?

Darryl

On Sep 1, 7:58*pm, kammeyer wrote:
Hi All,

I'm the author of GlidePath. *Just to clarify a few things -- we are
OLC approved, although I have gotten a couple of comments about
validation problems, and we'll be releasing a new version shortly that
resolves these issues. *I'm hoping to get it approved as an IGC
Position Recorder, which is a new class of loggers that can only be
used for Silver and Gold badges. *There are some obstacles for using
this in contests due to the phone's abilities, but I believe that a
technical solution can be found that will be satisfying to the contest
officials for use as a backup logger.

The really nice features of GlidePath a

1. Super easy OLC submission: *You just log your flight, and tap a
couple of times, and your flight is on OLC. *No hassles with SD cards
and making sure you get everything transferred before the OLC weekly
deadline.
2. Super easy transfer of flights to your computer: *Just push a
button and the flight is emailed to yourself or anyone else.
3. Very low cost to start logging your flights, which is especially
useful to newcomers to the sport who may be flying club gliders. *They
can start analyzing their flights quickly and easily, and start
participating on OLC even before they start doing real x/c.

Some tips:

1. Turn off Wi-Fi and Cellular Data for the best GPS reception
2. Make sure the phone has a clear view of the sky. *It's easy to
accomplish this by either using a cheap suction cup mount or a running
type armband.
3. For long flights, battery life may be a concern. *Turning off Wi-Fi
and Cellular Data help a lot, but you may want to consider one of the
available external batteries or plugging into ships power with one of
the car adapters available for the phone. *Battery life is also an
area I will be addressing in the next couple of versions.

On Sep 1, 11:30*am, Darryl Ramm wrote:

On Sep 1, 9:17*am, Mike the Strike wrote:

On Sep 1, 6:59*am, vontresc wrote:

From time to time I check the iPhone app store for soaring apps. I
just came across GlidePath. The developer claims it's OLC compliant.. I
havent purchased it yet, but it looks like a good backup for OLC
flying.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/glide...83714417?mt=8#

Pete

Interesting App. *My concern would be battery life without external
power. *I've used a few tracking and logging apps on my iPhone and
find I am limited to a couple of hours before needing a recharge.
Presumably it also won't plot a map without Internet access. *Assuming
this is available via 3G, this is currently likely a violation of
contest rules.

Mike

OLC Contest Rules? They don't seem to care about communication
devices.
I suspect it is not aimed at sanctioned contests and would not try to
be an IGC position recorder.

The power consumption is likely to be high. I don't believe it can
rely on the background low-power tracking mode in iOS 4 as that relies
on cell tower switching tricks.

Anybody tried it?

Darryl

Thanks for the info - probably the cheapest way of getting an OLC
certified logger.

Am I correct in my assumption that the mapping feature will work only
with wifi or cellphone access, or does the app have the capability of
storing maps to memory?

Also, I assume it will work on an iPad, which has much better battery
life.

Mike

On Sep 1, 11:59*pm, Mike the Strike wrote:
On Sep 1, 7:58*pm, kammeyer wrote:





Hi All,

I'm the author of GlidePath. *Just to clarify a few things -- we are
OLC approved, although I have gotten a couple of comments about
validation problems, and we'll be releasing a new version shortly that
resolves these issues. *I'm hoping to get it approved as an IGC
Position Recorder, which is a new class of loggers that can only be
used for Silver and Gold badges. *There are some obstacles for using
this in contests due to the phone's abilities, but I believe that a
technical solution can be found that will be satisfying to the contest
officials for use as a backup logger.

The really nice features of GlidePath a

1. Super easy OLC submission: *You just log your flight, and tap a
couple of times, and your flight is on OLC. *No hassles with SD cards
and making sure you get everything transferred before the OLC weekly
deadline.
2. Super easy transfer of flights to your computer: *Just push a
button and the flight is emailed to yourself or anyone else.
3. Very low cost to start logging your flights, which is especially
useful to newcomers to the sport who may be flying club gliders. *They
can start analyzing their flights quickly and easily, and start
participating on OLC even before they start doing real x/c.

Some tips:

1. Turn off Wi-Fi and Cellular Data for the best GPS reception
2. Make sure the phone has a clear view of the sky. *It's easy to
accomplish this by either using a cheap suction cup mount or a running
type armband.
3. For long flights, battery life may be a concern. *Turning off Wi-Fi
and Cellular Data help a lot, but you may want to consider one of the
available external batteries or plugging into ships power with one of
the car adapters available for the phone. *Battery life is also an
area I will be addressing in the next couple of versions.

On Sep 1, 11:30*am, Darryl Ramm wrote:

On Sep 1, 9:17*am, Mike the Strike wrote:

On Sep 1, 6:59*am, vontresc wrote:

From time to time I check the iPhone app store for soaring apps. I
just came across GlidePath. The developer claims it's OLC compliant. I
havent purchased it yet, but it looks like a good backup for OLC
flying.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/glide...83714417?mt=8#

Pete

Interesting App. *My concern would be battery life without external
power. *I've used a few tracking and logging apps on my iPhone and
find I am limited to a couple of hours before needing a recharge.
Presumably it also won't plot a map without Internet access. *Assuming
this is available via 3G, this is currently likely a violation of
contest rules.

Mike

OLC Contest Rules? They don't seem to care about communication
devices.
I suspect it is not aimed at sanctioned contests and would not try to
be an IGC position recorder.

The power consumption is likely to be high. I don't believe it can
rely on the background low-power tracking mode in iOS 4 as that relies
on cell tower switching tricks.

Anybody tried it?

Darryl

Thanks for the info - probably the cheapest way of getting an OLC
certified logger.

Am I correct in my assumption that *the mapping feature will work only
with wifi or cellphone access, or does the app have the capability of
storing maps to memory?

Also, I assume it will work on an iPad, which has much better battery
life.

Mike

Hi Mike,

The mapping feature currently uses the iPhone's Google Maps
capability, which downloads the map tiles over the wireless
connection. Therefore, unless you have previously pulled up the Maps
app and viewed the area you will be flying in, you probably (depending
on cell reception) won't be able to view a map in flight. Certainly,
this is an area that I'm looking at for future versions. Currently,
the app is essentially a logger, a log viewer, and an easy way to
email logs, and submit them to OLC. Additionally, it provides a
simple display such as speed, ground track, and distance/bearing to
the takeoff point. It's not yet a replacement for a flight computer
or moving-map GPS. I haven't tested GlidePath on the iPad, but it
should work fine assuming you have the 3G iPad -- the Wi-Fi version
doesn't have a GPS. Also, I love feature requests. Email me if
there's something you'd like to see in an iPhone soaring app!

-Dave

Thanks for the info - probably the cheapest way of getting an OLC
certified logger.

depends on how you figure the cost. the app is 10 bucks but the phone
is what? a couple or three hundred? won't pretty much any old garmin
handheld make a file that can be converted to igc format? i just
picked up a flywithCE logger that was $120 and ready for the OLC.

On Sep 1, 9:59*pm, Mike the Strike wrote:

Thanks for the info - probably the cheapest way of getting an OLC
certified logger.

Really? How much is an iPhone, the app, and a suitable service
contract?

Andy

On Sep 1, 9:17*am, Mike the Strike wrote:
On Sep 1, 6:59*am, vontresc wrote:

From time to time I check the iPhone app store for soaring apps. I
just came across GlidePath. The developer claims it's OLC compliant. I
havent purchased it yet, but it looks like a good backup for OLC
flying.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/glide...83714417?mt=8#

Pete

Interesting App. *My concern would be battery life without external
power. *I've used a few tracking and logging apps on my iPhone and
find I am limited to a couple of hours before needing a recharge.
Presumably it also won't plot a map without Internet access. *Assuming
this is available via 3G, this is currently likely a violation of
contest rules.

Mike

External power is easy. Get a cigarette lighter USB power adapter and
hack it to add connectors to your glider battery. Another 'under
$10.00' solution.

On Sep 20, 3:29*pm, Grider Pirate wrote:
On Sep 1, 9:17*am, Mike the Strike wrote:



On Sep 1, 6:59*am, vontresc wrote:

From time to time I check the iPhone app store for soaring apps. I
just came across GlidePath. The developer claims it's OLC compliant. I
havent purchased it yet, but it looks like a good backup for OLC
flying.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/glide...83714417?mt=8#

Pete

Interesting App. *My concern would be battery life without external
power. *I've used a few tracking and logging apps on my iPhone and
find I am limited to a couple of hours before needing a recharge.
Presumably it also won't plot a map without Internet access. *Assuming
this is available via 3G, this is currently likely a violation of
contest rules.

Mike

External power is easy. *Get a cigarette lighter USB power adapter and
hack it to add connectors to your glider battery. *Another 'under
$10.00' solution.

The iPhone is fussy about DC power adapters, many cheap USB out
cigarette lighter adapters won't work with a iPhone you are not into
mucking around with this buy one that specifically states it works
with a current generation iPhone. For the technically inclined the
difference is a couple of resistors, well documented on the Web. Some
of the cheap adapters also leak lots of RF noise that can affect your
VHF radio. Better ones should be fine.

Darryl