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Old September 14th 10, 02:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Frank Whiteley
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Everything went right after everything went wrong

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...es-runway.html
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Old September 14th 10, 02:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tony[_5_]
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On Sep 14, 8:43*am, Frank Whiteley wrote:
Everything went right after everything went wrong

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...m-air-crash-pi...


That'll buff right out. The scratches on the canopy, that is. Glad
that he'll be OK, incredible pictures.
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Old September 14th 10, 03:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Andreas Maurer
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On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 06:50:46 -0700 (PDT), Tony
wrote:

On Sep 14, 8:43*am, Frank Whiteley wrote:
Everything went right after everything went wrong

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...m-air-crash-pi...


That'll buff right out. The scratches on the canopy, that is. Glad
that he'll be OK, incredible pictures.


Here's a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxbulrrQVig

Andreas
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Old September 14th 10, 04:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Sep 14, 7:43*am, Frank Whiteley wrote:
Everything went right after everything went wrong

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...m-air-crash-pi...


Would it not have been better for the pilot to stay in the cockpit
untill rescue crews arrived?
Obviously in this crash as in many others involving gliders the chance
of spinal cord injury is great. I would think that extracting yourself
from the cockpit would increase the chance of aggravating any injury.

Robert Mudd
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Old September 14th 10, 05:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Mike the Strike
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Default Swift crash

On Sep 14, 8:54*am, "
wrote:
On Sep 14, 7:43*am, Frank Whiteley wrote:

Everything went right after everything went wrong


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...m-air-crash-pi...


Would it not have been better for the pilot to stay in the cockpit
untill rescue crews arrived?
Obviously in this crash as in many others involving gliders the chance
of spinal cord injury is great. I would think that extracting yourself
from the cockpit would increase the chance of aggravating any injury.

Robert Mudd


Classic stall spin from low altitude under strong wind/ wind shear.
You'd have thought an experienced aerobatic pilot would have seen that
coming. He's very lucky!

Mike

Mike
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Old September 14th 10, 06:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Del Copeland
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At 16:06 14 September 2010, Mike the Strike wrote:
On Sep 14, 8:54=A0am, "
wrote:
On Sep 14, 7:43=A0am, Frank Whiteley wrote:

Everything went right after everything went wrong



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...m-air-crash-pi...

Would it not have been better for the pilot to stay in the cockpit
untill rescue crews arrived?
Obviously in this crash as in many others involving gliders the chance
of spinal cord injury is great. I would think that extracting yourself
from the cockpit would increase the chance of aggravating any injury.

Robert Mudd


Classic stall spin from low altitude under strong wind/ wind shear.
You'd have thought an experienced aerobatic pilot would have seen that
coming. He's very lucky!



Allegedly he was talking to ATC on the radio as he crashed. He had opened
the airbrakes and forgot tp close them before making the final turn.
Aviate, navigate, communicate in that order!

Derek C


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Old September 16th 10, 01:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Papa3
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On Sep 14, 12:06*pm, Mike the Strike wrote:
On Sep 14, 8:54*am, "
wrote:

On Sep 14, 7:43*am, Frank Whiteley wrote:


Everything went right after everything went wrong


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...m-air-crash-pi....


Would it not have been better for the pilot to stay in the cockpit
untill rescue crews arrived?
Obviously in this crash as in many others involving gliders the chance
of spinal cord injury is great. I would think that extracting yourself
from the cockpit would increase the chance of aggravating any injury.


Robert Mudd


Classic stall spin from low altitude under strong wind/ wind shear.
You'd have thought an experienced aerobatic pilot would have seen that
coming. *He's very lucky!

Mike

Mike


You'd think... Years ago (young, single, no kids, etc.) I used to
fly in whatever I could whenever I could. I was extremely current/
proficient, including doing some intro-aerobatics instructing in an
L-13AC. A guy at the local airfield invited me up in his two-place
Fox because he wanted to improve his thermalling technique. He's
rocketing around at almost 60kts and 20 degrees of bank and we're
barely climbing. "Let me show you how it's done" I called from the
back seat. "I got it. See here, you just bank it over a bit more,
slow us up a little." "Umm" he says, you might want to watch that
airspeed." "Well, you have to get us slowed up a bit or we'll..."
I started. Never finished that sentence, as by then we were staring
straight down at the ground rotating at a nice rate.

The thing departed into a spin with absolutely NO warning. NO buffet.
NO complaints. One minute we're flying. The next we're spinning.
It really felt like the controls came disconnected. The stick had
almost no load on it for a few seconds. I recovered uneventfully, and
we both had a good chuckle.

Point being, these aerobatic ships with anhedral and symmetrical or
near-symmetrical airfoils aren't very forgiving. There but for the
grace of God...

P3
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Old September 14th 10, 07:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Sep 14, 8:54*am, "
wrote:
On Sep 14, 7:43*am, Frank Whiteley wrote:

Everything went right after everything went wrong


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...m-air-crash-pi...


Would it not have been better for the pilot to stay in the cockpit
untill rescue crews arrived?
Obviously in this crash as in many others involving gliders the chance
of spinal cord injury is great. I would think that extracting yourself
from the cockpit would increase the chance of aggravating any injury.

Robert Mudd


He obviously had other thoughts
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Old September 14th 10, 11:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Scott[_7_]
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On 9-14-2010 15:54, wrote:
On Sep 14, 7:43 am, Frank wrote:
Everything went right after everything went wrong

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...m-air-crash-pi...

Would it not have been better for the pilot to stay in the cockpit
untill rescue crews arrived?
Obviously in this crash as in many others involving gliders the chance
of spinal cord injury is great. I would think that extracting yourself
from the cockpit would increase the chance of aggravating any injury.

Robert Mudd


They call this phenemonon the "walking wounded". As a car wreck
survivor, I understand this...when you are in the wreck, you have an
incredible urge to get out of the wreck. Almost instinct as there isn't
any thought of injuries. The adrenelin is flowing freely and you feel
absolutely no pain, so you think you are OK....


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Old September 15th 10, 03:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Wayne Paul
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The Daily Mail has several glider related articles.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/sear...hPhrase=Glider

Wayne
http://www.soaridaho.com


"Frank Whiteley" wrote in message ...
Everything went right after everything went wrong

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...es-runway.html

 




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