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Old April 21st 04, 06:18 PM
Don Tabor
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Default Invitiation to the end of the IRS

Rally for America

How about making April 15th just another day?

American businesses will spend more just on the cost of compliance
with the IRS code than we spend on the war on terror, and we do it
EVERY year,
with no end in sight.

Our current tax code is fair to no one, cripples our manufacturers in
competition in the world market, and rips the country apart with class
warfare.

There is a better way.

On May 1st, thousands of grassroots supporters will stand in
solidarity to promote the FairTax System. Admission is free and
breakfast will be served, so come join us from 8 AM to Noon at the
Chesapeake Convention Center located at 900 Greenbrier Circle,
Chesapeake, Virginia 23320. (CPK, ORF) Transportation can be arranged
from ORF or CPK to the event.

You will hear Neal Boortz speak about the FairTax and learn how you
can be a part of the effort to scrap the current tax system and
replace it with one that is fair to everyone, simple in compliance,
easily enforced, even for the underground economy and bring clarity to
the true cost of government.

For more information, see www.Fairtax.org
or call 1-800-FAIRTAX ext 110
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Old April 21st 04, 08:27 PM
Peter Duniho
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"Don Tabor" wrote in message
om...
[political agenda crap snipped]


Wow. You made absolutely NO attempt to even PRETEND this was on-topic
somehow.

Here, why don't I start posting all of MY political agenda crap to the
newsgroup. Maybe everyone else ought to too.

Yeah, that would work really well...


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Old April 21st 04, 09:39 PM
Otis Winslow
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How is switching to a tax on consumption going to help? We already have
sales taxes.
If you don't buy much .. you don't pay much tax. It would be too hard to
enforce.
The answer is the flat tax. Just like Soc Sec .. EVERYONE pays the same
percent of their income. Period. No deductions. No sliding scale. No cutoff.
Nothing. If you made $2000 last year you pay the same
percent of your income as the guy who made $2 million. Handled through
payroll deduction.
The problem is that CPAs, tax attorneys and everyone else involved in
handling the
current nightmare tax system would never let it happen. Their PACs would be
paying off
every congress critter out there to prevent it.



"Don Tabor" wrote in message
om...
Rally for America

How about making April 15th just another day?

American businesses will spend more just on the cost of compliance
with the IRS code than we spend on the war on terror, and we do it
EVERY year,
with no end in sight.

Our current tax code is fair to no one, cripples our manufacturers in
competition in the world market, and rips the country apart with class
warfare.

There is a better way.

On May 1st, thousands of grassroots supporters will stand in
solidarity to promote the FairTax System. Admission is free and
breakfast will be served, so come join us from 8 AM to Noon at the
Chesapeake Convention Center located at 900 Greenbrier Circle,
Chesapeake, Virginia 23320. (CPK, ORF) Transportation can be arranged
from ORF or CPK to the event.

You will hear Neal Boortz speak about the FairTax and learn how you
can be a part of the effort to scrap the current tax system and
replace it with one that is fair to everyone, simple in compliance,
easily enforced, even for the underground economy and bring clarity to
the true cost of government.

For more information, see www.Fairtax.org
or call 1-800-FAIRTAX ext 110



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Old April 21st 04, 10:00 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Otis Winslow" wrote in message
.. .
How is switching to a tax on consumption going to help? We already have
sales taxes.
If you don't buy much .. you don't pay much tax. It would be too hard to
enforce.
The answer is the flat tax. Just like Soc Sec .. EVERYONE pays the same
percent of their income. Period. No deductions. No sliding scale. No

cutoff.
Nothing. If you made $2000 last year you pay the same
percent of your income as the guy who made $2 million. Handled through
payroll deduction.
The problem is that CPAs, tax attorneys and everyone else involved in
handling the
current nightmare tax system would never let it happen. Their PACs would

be
paying off
every congress critter out there to prevent it.


The problem with the flat tax is it keeps the IRS...the worst agency since
the Gestapo.


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Old April 22nd 04, 02:55 AM
Richard Hertz
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"Otis Winslow" wrote in message
.. .
How is switching to a tax on consumption going to help? We already have
sales taxes.
If you don't buy much .. you don't pay much tax. It would be too hard to
enforce.
The answer is the flat tax. Just like Soc Sec .. EVERYONE pays the same
percent of their income. Period. No deductions. No sliding scale. No

cutoff.
Nothing. If you made $2000 last year you pay the same
percent of your income as the guy who made $2 million. Handled through
payroll deduction.


Yeah, and both systems work great...
You must be a student or a starving artist or something.


The problem is that CPAs, tax attorneys and everyone else involved in
handling the
current nightmare tax system would never let it happen. Their PACs would

be
paying off
every congress critter out there to prevent it.







"Don Tabor" wrote in message
om...
Rally for America

How about making April 15th just another day?

American businesses will spend more just on the cost of compliance
with the IRS code than we spend on the war on terror, and we do it
EVERY year,
with no end in sight.

Our current tax code is fair to no one, cripples our manufacturers in
competition in the world market, and rips the country apart with class
warfare.

There is a better way.

On May 1st, thousands of grassroots supporters will stand in
solidarity to promote the FairTax System. Admission is free and
breakfast will be served, so come join us from 8 AM to Noon at the
Chesapeake Convention Center located at 900 Greenbrier Circle,
Chesapeake, Virginia 23320. (CPK, ORF) Transportation can be arranged
from ORF or CPK to the event.

You will hear Neal Boortz speak about the FairTax and learn how you
can be a part of the effort to scrap the current tax system and
replace it with one that is fair to everyone, simple in compliance,
easily enforced, even for the underground economy and bring clarity to
the true cost of government.

For more information, see www.Fairtax.org
or call 1-800-FAIRTAX ext 110





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Old April 22nd 04, 02:08 PM
Otis Winslow
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"Richard Hertz" wrote in message
. net...

You must be a student or a starving artist or something.


Ha ha .. no .. thankfully not.


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Old April 22nd 04, 03:19 AM
Jim Fisher
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"Otis Winslow" wrote in message
The answer is the flat tax.


I used to be in favor of that but the problem is that a flat tax is, in
fact, a regressive tax. Yeah, I know everyone pays the same percentage but
$200.00 a year to someone making $10,000.00 a year is still a lot while
$2000.00 a year to someone making a hundred grand really isn't that much.

A national sales tax is a much more-better idea. You buys lots of stuff?
You pays The Man. This would also encourage folks to save instead of
spending more than they make. . . . Aw hell, I wasn't gonna even reply to
this silly thread but couldn't help it. I'm going to bed before I get wound
up.

--
Jim Fisher


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Old April 22nd 04, 03:33 AM
Greg Copeland
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:19:15 -0500, Jim Fisher wrote:

"Otis Winslow" wrote in message
The answer is the flat tax.


I used to be in favor of that but the problem is that a flat tax is, in
fact, a regressive tax. Yeah, I know everyone pays the same percentage but
$200.00 a year to someone making $10,000.00 a year is still a lot while
$2000.00 a year to someone making a hundred grand really isn't that much.

A national sales tax is a much more-better idea. You buys lots of stuff?
You pays The Man. This would also encourage folks to save instead of
spending more than they make. . . . Aw hell, I wasn't gonna even reply to
this silly thread but couldn't help it. I'm going to bed before I get wound
up.


Well, even with a flat tax, the IRS wouldn't be going anywhere. At best,
it would be greatly reduced in size. For those that are below the poverty
line, other ammendments, refunds and services can be provided to offset
anything they paid as part of a flat tax program. In fact, many of these
services are already available today. I've heard this argument used time
and time again. It never holds water. A flat tax system is by far, the
most fair and easiest methods of collecting taxes.

Even if I had to pay any extra two or three hunded dollars a year in
taxes, it would easily be offset by the amount that I already pay in
having my taxes done. Last I heard, if a flat tax program were to be
implemented, the average American would pay +-500 dollars within what they
currently pay. That means some of us would actually do better. Others
would do slight worse. In either case, not having to pay for taxes
services would certainly help to offset the difference.


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Old April 22nd 04, 12:42 PM
Jay Honeck
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Well, even with a flat tax, the IRS wouldn't be going anywhere.

The IRS isn't the enemy. They are a necessary and legal part of our
government.

The enemy is Congress, who keeps passing absurdly more intricate and
inscrutable tax laws, which must then be incorporated and interpreted by the
IRS.

Congress is supposedly made up of our representatives, but I haven't seen
much evidence of that in my lifetime.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old April 22nd 04, 09:37 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:7dOhc.2204$_L6.387680@attbi_s53...
Well, even with a flat tax, the IRS wouldn't be going anywhere.


The IRS isn't the enemy. They are a necessary and legal part of our
government.


They may be legal but they're certainly not necessary, especailly their
Gestapo mentaility ("We're always right even when were wrong")


The enemy is Congress, who keeps passing absurdly more intricate and
inscrutable tax laws, which must then be incorporated and interpreted by

the
IRS.


Which plays the bully with such relish.


Congress is supposedly made up of our representatives, but I haven't seen
much evidence of that in my lifetime.


True enough but every time some Rep tries to reign in the IRS they get
stepped on.


 




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